You have no idea how Evangelicals will twists Jesus to fit whatever they want. According to them, Jesus would have carried a concealed gun and owned an arsenal and would tell the poor to fend for themselves while lynching gay people.
Viviane
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US Air Force to Atheist: Say God in oath or dont re-enlist
by Dis-Member inan atheist airman is being denied the ability to re-enlist in the us air force because he refuses to use the word god in his oath of office, according to the american humanist association (aha).. the unnamed member of the air force refused to take the oath containing so help me god, wanting a secular affirmation instead.
so he crossed out the phrase on his contract.
the airman was told by his superiors that he must swear to god or leave the air force, the aha said in a press release.
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Question for the nonbelievers and atheists
by nykid inwhat specifically made you stop believing in god and the bible?
was it a steady road of doubts or it was reading one book or one major event that made you realize the bible was not what it's claimed to be?.
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Viviane
Reading the bible.
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Biblical Prohecies That Came True?
by Viviane inrecently there have been several claims made regarding prophecies that came true.
i've not personally seen a prophecy that i would consider as having come true.
i would consider the following as the requirements to say something is a prophecy and evaluate whether or not it came true:.
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Viviane
GMALT, the book of Revelation... Pick one and tell me specifically what it predicted and what came true.
Same for the 70 week. What, specifically, with names, dates and events did it predict and when, with specific events, did that happen?
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Biblical Prohecies That Came True?
by Viviane inrecently there have been several claims made regarding prophecies that came true.
i've not personally seen a prophecy that i would consider as having come true.
i would consider the following as the requirements to say something is a prophecy and evaluate whether or not it came true:.
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Viviane
Moses, I know you're gone, never to return, but I'll post this anyway.
Yes, you are at arrogant AND a smelly poophole as well, apparently. I've used no references, true. So far none have been in needed. There is no need to run off in a huff. Your fine Christian and humanist comments regarding my death are not something I would hold against you, ever.
Just be less of an ignorant, arrogant asshole if you come back.
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Biblical Prohecies That Came True?
by Viviane inrecently there have been several claims made regarding prophecies that came true.
i've not personally seen a prophecy that i would consider as having come true.
i would consider the following as the requirements to say something is a prophecy and evaluate whether or not it came true:.
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Viviane
Back to what we are discussing, Gleason L. Archer could and did.
Gleason was a believer in Biblical innerancy, an apologist with a singular goal to prove the Bible error-free (which it obvioulsy is not). He did his research and work exactly backwards and, more than anything, is a study in how to NOT do science and commit the fallacy of confirmation bias.
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Biblical Prohecies That Came True?
by Viviane inrecently there have been several claims made regarding prophecies that came true.
i've not personally seen a prophecy that i would consider as having come true.
i would consider the following as the requirements to say something is a prophecy and evaluate whether or not it came true:.
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Viviane
I never claimed or behaved in a superior fashion, such as taking a persons post and breaking down line by line and on the basis of nothing but my superior opinion as to why it's off topic, wrong or in of itself arrogant.
You claimed to know my opinion better than I do, claimed what you wanted to say the "true" discussion was, claimed to know why I posted the topic and then accidentally called yourself an idiot. Arrogance wrapped in ignorance. You are free to leave if you cannot stay on topic.
I posted a response with scriptures that held prophecies that, if you do not get involved with the debate about whether or not they were written before or after, history shows have happened.
They are known to have been written after.
Your question has been answered clearly, you got what you wanted.
Now you claim to know what I want and whether I am sated? Such arrogance and ignorance again!
Now you've apparently decided to allow the criteria of, "Is proven not to have been written before hand" and that ends the discussion because that proof doesn't exist. You're continuing a debate you've already stated yourself is pointless - thus you are not doing it for a discussion. That's not being arrogant, that's what YOU have said and demonstrated.
Or, I clearly said from very early on that Daniel was known to have been amalgamated and written after. Do try and keep up.
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Will it someday be possible to read another person's mind, without his or her even knowing it?
by Pinku inscientists transmit thoughts from one brain to another.
sep 7, 2014, 6:27 am et.
column by lee dye.
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Viviane
A lot of people here certainly think they can do it.
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Biblical Prohecies That Came True?
by Viviane inrecently there have been several claims made regarding prophecies that came true.
i've not personally seen a prophecy that i would consider as having come true.
i would consider the following as the requirements to say something is a prophecy and evaluate whether or not it came true:.
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Viviane
Absolutely nothing I posted is preaching, I'm posting a logical argument and being flamed and insulted in return. Nor was I being arrogant.
You're not being flamed for being logical as you've yet to do that. You've been arrogant and preaching.
You initiated a thread asking a question you know full well is controversial, has far too many educated people on either side both claiming they have the answeres and you think the common people who come here are going to be able to just eliminate all the doubt and give aboslute proof of prophetic specificity and authenticity when in fact if that were possible everyone in the world would be christian, so i say again there is no point to your topic.
If you can't stay on topic and back up your claims regarding prophecy, you are free to leave.
You've asked a question whcih you already know the answer to either for your own self gratification or some other purpose - but not an soley for a discussion. unless of course your an idiot and did expect someone to be able to do what you ask - but i doubt it very much.
Such arrogance! I do find it quite amusing that you, attempting to insult me, claim that only an idiot would expect someone to be able to show a valid prophecy in the Bible. You did get one thing in doubting that I am idiot, however.
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Biblical Prohecies That Came True?
by Viviane inrecently there have been several claims made regarding prophecies that came true.
i've not personally seen a prophecy that i would consider as having come true.
i would consider the following as the requirements to say something is a prophecy and evaluate whether or not it came true:.
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Viviane
You need to think to understand. Jesus went on to say, not a stone upon a stone will be left (Matt. 24:2). That also came true.
Are you suggesting I am not thinking? Jesus said nothing specific and simply described what HAD happened already under similiar circumstances to his own time. He never said who, when or why it would happen. Nothing he said required foreknowledge. He, among many others, were saying destruction was coming.
But, sad to say, all these arguments are in vain. Gleason L. Archer, a conservative scholar, summed it up quite well when he said: “The committed antisupernaturalist, who can only explain the successful predictions of Daniel as prophecies after the fulfillment…. is not likely to be swayed by any amount of objective evidence whatever.”
Provide some objective evidence. Gleason couldn't.
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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Viviane
In case you haven't figured it our, the love Jesus spoke about ( since it keeps getting referred to) is self-sacrifice.
250,000 people didn't self-sacrifice.
As for the arugment for compassion being demolished because SOME people are not compassionate in the face of suffering, well...I don't really view that as an argument at all.
Your argument was that suffering can increase compassion. If it can also decrease it, in what way is point NOT a valid argument? What did they teach you in school?
That is like saying that because some people are that are loved are not loving means that loving people doesn't lead to love.
Of course not, and that's not analagous to the argument being made.
Connect the dots between "God is love" and his creation and laws and foreknowledge that it would happen causing the deaths of 250000 people. How is that love?