Let's say the prophecy has had a partial fulfillment. According to above prophecies, there's some interesting developments to look forward to. Time will tell.
S, it's an unfulfilled prophecy.
Viviane
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Biblical Prohecies That Came True?
by Viviane inrecently there have been several claims made regarding prophecies that came true.
i've not personally seen a prophecy that i would consider as having come true.
i would consider the following as the requirements to say something is a prophecy and evaluate whether or not it came true:.
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Nebuchadnezzar's Dream--The Death of His Dynasty
by Tiresias infollowing my departure from the jehovah's witnesses, i have done my own research using preterism as a primary lens.
i would like to share my understanding of daniel chapter 2:.
31 "you looked, o king, and there before you stood a large statuean enormous, dazzling statue, awesome in appearance.
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Viviane
Since they believe that all prophecies have been fulfilled, including the prophecies laid out in Matthew 24 and the book of Revelation, they must go through a number of gyrations to find fulfillment of things not yet fulfilled.
Not one prophecy in the Bible has ever been fulfilled.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/284484/1/Biblical-Prohecies-That-Came-True
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Biblical Prohecies That Came True?
by Viviane inrecently there have been several claims made regarding prophecies that came true.
i've not personally seen a prophecy that i would consider as having come true.
i would consider the following as the requirements to say something is a prophecy and evaluate whether or not it came true:.
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Here’s two prophecies of Isaiah that scholars had a problem with, especially Isaiah 19. If these did not come to pass in the past, they have now.
As JWFacts points, out, that had happened before, war was a constant part of life then, predicting that required no special knowledge. It fails on specifics.
In any event, chapter 19 says Egypt would tremble at the might of Israel and would speak the language of the Caananites and would swear allegiance to Jehovah, build monuments to him and worship Jehovah along with Assyria.
That has not happened, prophecy failed.
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Biblical Prohecies That Came True?
by Viviane inrecently there have been several claims made regarding prophecies that came true.
i've not personally seen a prophecy that i would consider as having come true.
i would consider the following as the requirements to say something is a prophecy and evaluate whether or not it came true:.
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Viviane
Viviane opened the floor to refutation of BIBLICAL prophesy being fulfilled or not. If you want to contend that the OT prophesies (in the bible) are fabricated that may be another thread you'd like to open but, this thread hasn't been about that.
Since there is no prophecy in the Bible saying a man names Jesus would be crowned King, it's quite irrelevant to this discussion.
Which OT prophecies do you think came true? Include the specifics and historical evidence of fulfillment.
The stage was set and the (opposing!!) actors were in their place to fulfill the prophesies that God would choose and set a King (one like the son of man) over "the kingdom"
That's a theological argument, not a historical one. It's a matter of personal belief, not one of historical evidence. In any event, no prophesy ever said a man name Jesus would be crowned King. Jesus also never referred to himself as the son of man.
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Biblical Prohecies That Came True?
by Viviane inrecently there have been several claims made regarding prophecies that came true.
i've not personally seen a prophecy that i would consider as having come true.
i would consider the following as the requirements to say something is a prophecy and evaluate whether or not it came true:.
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dear Viviane...
indeed, all those witnesses and you still deny that He was made King of the Jews.
love michelle
What witnesses? Please provide their names, specific testimony, what dates Jesus inhabited the palace and sat on the throne, his proclomations, rulings, etc.
Also, specifically, detail who made him king. You constantly vary on that, so we need to be clear. Also, please show me the prophecy that specifically says a man named Jesus would be made King, when it would happen and who would do it.
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Biblical Prohecies That Came True?
by Viviane inrecently there have been several claims made regarding prophecies that came true.
i've not personally seen a prophecy that i would consider as having come true.
i would consider the following as the requirements to say something is a prophecy and evaluate whether or not it came true:.
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Viviane
pontius pilate was the "supreme judge" over samaria and judea and he personally made a sign and affixed it to the cross of Jesus Christ that said:
*sigh*... First you said people elected the King, then you said God picked the King, now you say it was Pontius Pilate who made the king. You clearly are saying anything in an attempt to be able to claim a prophecy came true, but, even if any one of those had been right (none of the made Jesus King of Jerusalem, Pilate certainly didn't), there was certainly no prophecy that said a man names Jesus would be crowned King in Jerusalem in that year.
So far, still no prophecy from the Bible that came true.
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Biblical Prohecies That Came True?
by Viviane inrecently there have been several claims made regarding prophecies that came true.
i've not personally seen a prophecy that i would consider as having come true.
i would consider the following as the requirements to say something is a prophecy and evaluate whether or not it came true:.
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Dan. 2 doesn't meet all your criteria (no specific dates), but is impressive nevertheless.
It also fails on specificity. Anyone who says what Kingdoms are represented by the metals is reading into the text, not letting it speak for itself.
it was the custom that JEWISH kings were chosen by God to reign over the jewish people. whether he was welcomed as king or not didn't invalidate the custom and right of God to choose. The gentile nations had kings imposed on them for good or bad through conquest, if the king isn't welcomed does that mean he isn't king?
Under the right circumstances, it can, yes.
In any event, Jesus was never made king. The prophecy fails.
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Biblical Prohecies That Came True?
by Viviane inrecently there have been several claims made regarding prophecies that came true.
i've not personally seen a prophecy that i would consider as having come true.
i would consider the following as the requirements to say something is a prophecy and evaluate whether or not it came true:.
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Viviane
Viv, some prophecies pertain to the future. E.g. some of Daniel's prophecies. Here's a few quotes:
OK. Which of those is a specific prohecy that came true?
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Biblical Prohecies That Came True?
by Viviane inrecently there have been several claims made regarding prophecies that came true.
i've not personally seen a prophecy that i would consider as having come true.
i would consider the following as the requirements to say something is a prophecy and evaluate whether or not it came true:.
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Viviane
in john 12:12-16 it is written that there were a multitude of people who, of their own accord, welcomed Jesus as King into Jerusalem. The pharisees witnessed the procession (john 12:19) and that may be why they argued about "king of the jews" being inscribed on His cross (john 19:21) Jesus was elected King and Saviour by a multitude of jewish people without any involvement of the priests as was the custom.
Kings, by definition, are not elected by the people. That wasn't the custom and being welcomed as King doesn't make one King. Also, no scripture ever said a man named Jesus would be crowned King.
An argument can be made for the futility of siting specific dates with occurrences in the bible in that a person can be blind to prophesy even having seen it. the scriptures elude to the idea that until eyes are opened by God there is no real "vision"
That's an argument and a terrible one. Dates would be amazing.
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Biblical Prohecies That Came True?
by Viviane inrecently there have been several claims made regarding prophecies that came true.
i've not personally seen a prophecy that i would consider as having come true.
i would consider the following as the requirements to say something is a prophecy and evaluate whether or not it came true:.
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iv, Jesus refers to himself as “son of man” many times. This is but a few. There’s many more: Matt. 8:20; 9:6; 17:12; Mr. 2:10, 11, 28; Luk. 6:5, 22; 7:34; John 3:14; 5:27; 8:28.
Really?
Matthew 8:20: Jesus replied, "Foxes have dens and birds have nests, but the Son of Man has no place to lay his head."
Matthew 9:6: But I want you to know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins." So he said to the paralyzed man, "Get up, take your mat and go home."
Matthew 17:12: But I tell you, Elijah has already come, and they did not recognize him, but have done to him everything they wished. In the same way the Son of Man is going to suffer at their hands."
Mark 2:10, 11: "But so that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins "-- He said to the paralytic, 11 "I say to you, get up, pick up your pallet and go home."
Mark 2:28: So the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath."
Luke 6:5: Then Jesus said to them, "The Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath."
Luke 6:22: Blessed are you when people hate you, when they exclude you and insult you and reject your name as evil, because of the Son of Man.
Luke 7:34: The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and you say, 'Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.'
John 3:14: Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up,
John 5:27: And he has given him authority to judge because he is the Son of Man.
John 8:28:So Jesus said, "When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am he and that I do nothing on my own but speak just what the Father has taught me.
The ONLY scripture that even comesclose to saying what you claim is John 8:28, but even then, contextually, Jesus saying he is I AM, not the Son of Man. Along with his previous claim of being I AM, it fits.
In any event, Jesus never became King, so the prophecy fails. You can, of course, argue he is Kingin heaven, but that'sa theological argument and not a historical one.