Viviane

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  Man-made predictions come true where as those of “spirit-guided org” were a flop!

  by Pinku in

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  historian samuel p huntington (1927 2008) predicted a future with conflicts due to civilisational and cultural reasons rather than on grounds of political ideology and economics.

  and the ongoing conflict between the so-called islamic states and rest of the world seems to lend support to the late historian's controversial thesis.

  fulfillment of his prophecy is more than 100% (even journalists are being beheaded)!.

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  Viviane

  He predicted the different events might have different causes, just as had happened in the past? So?
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  the flood, mammoths, elphants, and food.

  by Crazyguy in

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  my question is since it looks as though mammoths were alive after the flood and we know elephants are then how much food was needed to feed just these four animals for the time they were on the ark.

  also was the ark, 500 feet long, big enough to hold the amount of food needed for just these 4 animals.. .

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  dark frosty, of all the arguments against the ARK story, your's is the one that hold no water, because

  *sigh*, here we go again...

  Like the rising tide that lifts all boats, the air would have been merely lifted up, and with a new sea level still be at it's maximum at that new lowest possible altitude, quite warm too with all that energy of motion.

  Yes, it would have been lifted, but not at the same density, because...

  mass now BELOW the ark would have increased the surface gravity, and with it the pressure and the temperature at the new sea level.

  Actually, the opposite would happen. The large large large majority of gravitational pull from earth comes from the denser rocks, metals, mantle, etc., not water. Adding 8800+ meters of LESS dense material will actually decrease the overall strength of the gravitational field over the given surface, not decrease it. It's the same reason Saturn, with much more mass than Earth, has about the same gravitional pull at the surface. It's all about density.

  Pushing the atmosphere that high while weakening the surface gravity would have allow massive amounts of the atmosphere to bleed off into space, lightening the atmosphere and making it much colder still that it previously would have been.
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  Topics I’ve Been Pondering On

  by JWINQUESTION in

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  this is my first post on here so bear with me.

  currently i am still an active jw with serious questions about the jw org.

  i was hesitant signing up but really need as much input from the people on this forum to get a clear understanding on things.

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  Viviane

  I addressed that I'm just asking questions and spurring out thoughts that needs to come out. Of course for me, it is not okay to murder people, beat up people or for terrorist driving planes into towers.

  OK. How is any of that like being gay?

  It's good that you are seeing many perspectives and thinking. I would suggest you listen to the perspectives you hear and try to reconcile that with "Who is this hurting? Why should I care? Does this make the world a better or worse place? Why do I think that?"

  Start to understand why you are hearing certain opinions and perspectives. Think a little deeper.
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  Topics I’ve Been Pondering On

  by JWINQUESTION in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is my first post on here so bear with me.

  currently i am still an active jw with serious questions about the jw org.

  i was hesitant signing up but really need as much input from the people on this forum to get a clear understanding on things.

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  Viviane

  I can believe that some are born gay, but I still feel that the types of association, media and shows that portray gay life in a positive light plays a much larger role in whether a person becomes gay or not.

  The real question is why you believe that. Let's dig into that. Being gay isn't inherently bad, why should it be a problem how media portrays is?

  If, as you suggest, it IS a choice, what you are telling me is you just need to meet the right guy and have a drink with him. I suggest Grindr, http://grindr.com
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  Topics I’ve Been Pondering On

  by JWINQUESTION in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is my first post on here so bear with me.

  currently i am still an active jw with serious questions about the jw org.

  i was hesitant signing up but really need as much input from the people on this forum to get a clear understanding on things.

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  Viviane

  After reading the comments, I can basically pursue anything that would make me personally happy?

  What if a person found happiness and joy in murdering people or if a school bully found happiness in beating kids people up? Or terrorist found happiness and joy in driving planes through tall buildings? Would it be correct for them to pursue those things?

  Of course not. Why would you even ask that?

  So would it be natural if a human parent kill and eat their babies just how homosexuality is okay among the human species?

  Oh, I get it, you are trying to justify saying "gays are icky" by pointing out that we don't do certain things other animals in nature do.

  Sorry, I don't mean to offend people with my posts. I just so have many questions and writing them to get peoples responses.

  I don't think you do. You're trying to justify "gays are icky". But, just in case you are for realy, why don't you, personally, explain the difference between eating babies and being gay. Go on, give it a shot.

  So what if a persons being gay interferes emotionally or physically on a parent or loved one?

  Exactly, so what?
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  What is a morally upright life?

  by jgnat in

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  is it relative, or do all human societies and cultures hold at least some things to be good?.

  i don't think right and true is "universal" other than what is right and true for people.

  a dolphin or a praying mantis may have alien perceptions of what is "good".

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  Your wording itself ( People with brain disorders, chemical imbalances, people born missing parts of their brain ) has the answer!

  You said "everyone". Are you now saying it's NOT everyone?

  How are you defining morality? IQ?
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  Man-made predictions come true where as those of “spirit-guided org” were a flop!

  by Pinku in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  historian samuel p huntington (1927 2008) predicted a future with conflicts due to civilisational and cultural reasons rather than on grounds of political ideology and economics.

  and the ongoing conflict between the so-called islamic states and rest of the world seems to lend support to the late historian's controversial thesis.

  fulfillment of his prophecy is more than 100% (even journalists are being beheaded)!.

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  Viviane

  Historian Samuel P Huntington (1927 – 2008) predicted a future with conflicts due to civilisational and cultural reasons rather than on grounds of political ideology and economics.

  How are those things different?

  And the ongoing conflict between the so-called Islamic States and rest of the world seems to lend support to the late historian's controversial thesis.

  ISIS is a cultural, religious and political movement. How does that support his argument?

  Fulfillment of his prophecy is more than 100% (even Journalists are being beheaded)!

  How do you get more than 100% fulfillment?

  Yet many of the predictions JWs, “the Spirit-guided organization,” made never came true!

  Neither did any Biblical prophecy.
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  What is a morally upright life?

  by jgnat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is it relative, or do all human societies and cultures hold at least some things to be good?.

  i don't think right and true is "universal" other than what is right and true for people.

  a dolphin or a praying mantis may have alien perceptions of what is "good".

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  Viviane

  For example, people who habitually ill-treat others will not like to be ill-treated. This means everyone knows what is right and wrong. People choose to do wrong because of its immediate benefit and feel confident of facing the consequences later somehow!

  Huh? People with brain disorders, chemical imbalances, people born missing parts of their brain... you've done an analysis of all of them and applied what metric and determined you how all of this?

  We find moral decline, yet IQ has gone up. What a 5-year-old child grasps now reminds us of the amount a 10-year-old child did a few years ago. Man can innovate devices (compare the Mobile phones and cars with that of past years) yet some cannot innovate his behavior.

  Morality and IQ are both slippery concepts. How are you defining either?

  The basic premise of Moral Foundation org is the unproven theory of Evolution.

  Evolution is a 100% proven fact.
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  Biblical Prohecies That Came True?

  by Viviane in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  recently there have been several claims made regarding prophecies that came true.

  i've not personally seen a prophecy that i would consider as having come true.

  i would consider the following as the requirements to say something is a prophecy and evaluate whether or not it came true:.

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  Viviane

  Indeed, phizzy.
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  Biblical Prohecies That Came True?

  by Viviane in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  recently there have been several claims made regarding prophecies that came true.

  i've not personally seen a prophecy that i would consider as having come true.

  i would consider the following as the requirements to say something is a prophecy and evaluate whether or not it came true:.

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  Viviane

  Nope, nothing so far.