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  Indiana "Religious Freedom" (right to discriminate)

  by Simon in

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  sickening to see the photo of the religious zealots all stood around the governor signing into law the right for people to discriminate against others (gay, lesbian, trans-gender) based purely on religious dogma.. if religious people want those freedoms then the can't have it both ways - they cannot complain if *they* are discriminated against.. "sorry, we don't like zionists, get out".

  "oh, it's some special mass and you can't work your shift?

  you're fired!"..

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  Viviane

  Jeff,

  edit feature is acting a little wonky, what I meant to say is "Huh? No one ever said a religion was not or not necessarily a legal entity. I said they weren't necessarily incorporated"
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  Indiana "Religious Freedom" (right to discriminate)

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  sickening to see the photo of the religious zealots all stood around the governor signing into law the right for people to discriminate against others (gay, lesbian, trans-gender) based purely on religious dogma.. if religious people want those freedoms then the can't have it both ways - they cannot complain if *they* are discriminated against.. "sorry, we don't like zionists, get out".

  "oh, it's some special mass and you can't work your shift?

  you're fired!"..

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  Viviane

  You told me my explicit answer of "No" was "BS," universally recognized as telling me I just lied, which is you telling me what I'm thinking is not what I said, which is you telling me what I think..

  Exactly. You did say it was fine but for some weird reason are still denying and arguing that. I can't help it if you don't understand synonyms or bother to ask for clarification.

  Anyway,

  Me saying lack of law against gender discrimination means it's not illegal to discriminate based on gender is NOT me saying that legal discrimination based on gender is "fine" or "should be fine". It's me saying it's fine PURELY FROM A LEGAL perspective, not simply "fine".

  Yep. Exactly. The problem is you assumed you knew what I meant by fine and OK and proceeded to argue from that false perspective rather than ask for clarification to help you out. Even now you're agreeing it's fine, which is exactly what I said.

  Your problem is that you did exactly what you are attempting to accuse me of and someone want to claim your lack of asking for clarification is my problem.

  Very weird.
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  Indiana "Religious Freedom" (right to discriminate)

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  sickening to see the photo of the religious zealots all stood around the governor signing into law the right for people to discriminate against others (gay, lesbian, trans-gender) based purely on religious dogma.. if religious people want those freedoms then the can't have it both ways - they cannot complain if *they* are discriminated against.. "sorry, we don't like zionists, get out".

  "oh, it's some special mass and you can't work your shift?

  you're fired!"..

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  Viviane

  Name a religion in this country that is not a legal entity.

  Huh? No one ever said a religion was necessarily a legal entity. I said they weren't necessarily incorporated.

  In any event, do you think it is OK to discriminate against of the the organizations I described?
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  The book of daniel and the five Akkadian prophecies

  by bohm in

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  there are two views on the book of daniel.

  according to the conservative jewish/christian view the book of daniel was written in mesopotamia under the babylonian conquest ca.

  according to the view of modern history the book was composed ca.

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  Viviane

  Excellent post, Bohm, great points.
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  Indiana "Religious Freedom" (right to discriminate)

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  sickening to see the photo of the religious zealots all stood around the governor signing into law the right for people to discriminate against others (gay, lesbian, trans-gender) based purely on religious dogma.. if religious people want those freedoms then the can't have it both ways - they cannot complain if *they* are discriminated against.. "sorry, we don't like zionists, get out".

  "oh, it's some special mass and you can't work your shift?

  you're fired!"..

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  Viviane

  If it's not a person what the hell is it? For the record, I'll take anybody's (anything's?) money, also under the Washington State ADA you have to allow service animals in your establishment.
  If you're trying to be coy about a religion being the customer, in the United States a corporation (which an organized religion is) is a legally the same as a person

  I am well aware that a corporation is indeed legally a person, as weird as that is. But, religions aren't necessarily incorporate, sole proprietorships, government entities, etc., are all things you can do business with as customers that aren't people.

  Is it legal, in your opinion, to disciminate against them?
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  Indiana "Religious Freedom" (right to discriminate)

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  sickening to see the photo of the religious zealots all stood around the governor signing into law the right for people to discriminate against others (gay, lesbian, trans-gender) based purely on religious dogma.. if religious people want those freedoms then the can't have it both ways - they cannot complain if *they* are discriminated against.. "sorry, we don't like zionists, get out".

  "oh, it's some special mass and you can't work your shift?

  you're fired!"..

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  Viviane

  This whole thread is an exercise in futility. Why would anyone want to force homosexuals into a homophobic group. You guys remind me of the biblical text where Israelite raped women were given into permanent bond and submission to their rapists. What?!!!

  Because institutional racism was outlawed, we see far lower instances of it and newer generations actively embarassed by how backwards and racist the previous generations were. You will never get rid of it, some people will always be backwards turds. But, you can drive the rate at which it happens way down.

  Basically, to leave the world a better place is why you do it.
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  Indiana "Religious Freedom" (right to discriminate)

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  sickening to see the photo of the religious zealots all stood around the governor signing into law the right for people to discriminate against others (gay, lesbian, trans-gender) based purely on religious dogma.. if religious people want those freedoms then the can't have it both ways - they cannot complain if *they* are discriminated against.. "sorry, we don't like zionists, get out".

  "oh, it's some special mass and you can't work your shift?

  you're fired!"..

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  Viviane

  Yet you are willing to tell people what they think despite the fact they've told you in explicit terms what you say is not what they think

  If you have an example me telling someone what they think, please show me where that has happened and I will, of course, apologize.

  Otherwise, you're just making stuff up. Again.

  You do this based on restating someone's position and then plying that restatement to mean something different than the original author said.

  Oh, sorry. Paraphrasing and restating another way while preserving the same meaning of what you wrote isn't "telling you what you think".

  Yep, you were making stuff up again. Or you're very confused.

  You seem to be a bright person. Why do you do these things, and then complain as you do above apparently without realizing you've just described yourself?

  Sorry, I couldn't hear you over the sound of not giving a sh*t over the stuff you're making up.

  Let me know if you have anything true to say. Otherwise, you're not worth any more effort (though to be fair, I can't guarantee I won't change my mind depending on how bored I am).
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  Indiana "Religious Freedom" (right to discriminate)

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  sickening to see the photo of the religious zealots all stood around the governor signing into law the right for people to discriminate against others (gay, lesbian, trans-gender) based purely on religious dogma.. if religious people want those freedoms then the can't have it both ways - they cannot complain if *they* are discriminated against.. "sorry, we don't like zionists, get out".

  "oh, it's some special mass and you can't work your shift?

  you're fired!"..

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  Viviane

  Don't fret though, boys. At some point i'll deplane, get back online and give you the attention from a strong, smart woman you so obviously crave.

  i have to admit, this whole "making stuff up about people" can be fun. I can see why you resort to it.
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  Indiana "Religious Freedom" (right to discriminate)

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  sickening to see the photo of the religious zealots all stood around the governor signing into law the right for people to discriminate against others (gay, lesbian, trans-gender) based purely on religious dogma.. if religious people want those freedoms then the can't have it both ways - they cannot complain if *they* are discriminated against.. "sorry, we don't like zionists, get out".

  "oh, it's some special mass and you can't work your shift?

  you're fired!"..

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  Viviane

  Ah, sorry Marvin, was typing in a hurry and didn't notice the loaded with anger part.

  I wonder what it's like to live in your head, ehere reality is apparently not a thing. i only ask because of the thing s you're pretending to know about me (that are laughably wrong and and an obvious, hamfisted attempt to make the argument personal, about me and direct away from the real topic of your failed question, a sure sign you've spun out of control) and the constant misconstruing of you arguing with your own words.

  Anyway, since you've not stopped kicking your dog due to your insufferable feelings of inadequacy, i will now bow out of any further conversation with you on this. Also, i am boarding a flight and have actual things to do, like take a nap and see if it's humanly possible to care that than i already don't about your's and JD's ficticious versions of reality where you can blame your failures on me being smart and angry.
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  Indiana "Religious Freedom" (right to discriminate)

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  sickening to see the photo of the religious zealots all stood around the governor signing into law the right for people to discriminate against others (gay, lesbian, trans-gender) based purely on religious dogma.. if religious people want those freedoms then the can't have it both ways - they cannot complain if *they* are discriminated against.. "sorry, we don't like zionists, get out".

  "oh, it's some special mass and you can't work your shift?

  you're fired!"..

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  Viviane

  JD, fortunately I really don't care what people who don't know me in the slightest decide to pretend they know. I do, however, find that behavior a curious combination of lack of knowledge and arrogance.