Posts by Viviane

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Are you religious or are you spiritual? Wake up to what?

by Deltawave in

there is a huge difference between been religious and been spiritual.

been religious is about been superior to others in the sight of god.

however, been spiritual is about self awareness, inner peace and unity with the natural world.

Viviane

evidence?

The name "Deltawave", the promotion of the Brahma Kumari ideas and the fact that this has all happened several times over the past few months.

this discussion is only connected with atheism in that smug atheists such as yourself seem to take delight in p1ssing all over the beliefs of others.

Oh, so, now you get corrected for the third time today. I piss on unsubstantiated claims. If another atheists were saying the earth were flat or that he could fly or that a teapot orbits Mars I would piss on that just as much, just as I am doing to your false and claim lacking in knowledge regarding my attitude or what I take delight in.

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Are you religious or are you spiritual? Wake up to what?

by Deltawave in

there is a huge difference between been religious and been spiritual.

been religious is about been superior to others in the sight of god.

however, been spiritual is about self awareness, inner peace and unity with the natural world.

Viviane

I have never heard that expression in my entire life. Wow.

It happens. It's amazing sometimes that you can go your entire life without knowing what many consider to be common knowledge. Last year someone was at my house helping made a dinner for some friends and asked for a ramekin. I had no idea that a small bowl was called a ramekin but everyone else said that was common knowledge that everyone knew.

I've no idea how I managed to go my entire life never knowing that.

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Are you religious or are you spiritual? Wake up to what?

by Deltawave in

there is a huge difference between been religious and been spiritual.

been religious is about been superior to others in the sight of god.

however, been spiritual is about self awareness, inner peace and unity with the natural world.

Viviane

Have a day off, for f*ck's sake.

Now you've been correct twice.

To someone new here, i.e. Deltawave, you don't show atheism in a particularly good light.

First, Deltawave is almost certainly a revamp of the Brahma Kumaris who periodically show up, preach, get booted, make a new account, rinse and repeat.

Secondly, this discussion has zero to do with atheism, but rather making false claims and displaying arrogance when trying to promote those blatantly false claims.

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Are you religious or are you spiritual? Wake up to what?

by Deltawave in

there is a huge difference between been religious and been spiritual.

been religious is about been superior to others in the sight of god.

however, been spiritual is about self awareness, inner peace and unity with the natural world.

Viviane

Can I just ask, what the hell is "woo?" I thought it was a typo earlier in the thread.

woo

n.(or adj), the way a person is when they uncritically believe unsubstantiated or unfounded ideas. Short for "woo woo".(See Russell's definition of woo woo)

Shirley believes that in a past life she was the Jolly Green Giant of Rainbowland. Shirley is very woo.

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Are you religious or are you spiritual? Wake up to what?

by Deltawave in

there is a huge difference between been religious and been spiritual.

been religious is about been superior to others in the sight of god.

however, been spiritual is about self awareness, inner peace and unity with the natural world.

Viviane

Viviane, we seem to be at odds here. I'm sorry you disagree with my views.

We're not "at odds" or "disagreeing" so much as you blatantly misrepresenting facts to promote your version woo while making claims about every human alive. You're being extremely dishonest and displaying a stunning level of hubris and arrogance.

I am not implying you don't value those ideas.

You absolutely did. Don't be dishonest about what you said.

I merely wish to point out that what those inspiring people aimed to teach us was to display qualities that are essential to humanity and that religious dogma has no real place in spirituality.

They endorsed denial of self, rape, slavery, murder and genocide. You're choosing to claim they didn't.

Basically, you are exhibiting the basic tenets and behaviors of the very thing you claim to be against.

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Are you religious or are you spiritual? Wake up to what?

by Deltawave in

there is a huge difference between been religious and been spiritual.

been religious is about been superior to others in the sight of god.

however, been spiritual is about self awareness, inner peace and unity with the natural world.

Viviane

All humans , even atheists, are spiritual in that they have a sense of right and wrong, have culture, see beauty in art, etc. but your OP doesn't do a particularly good job in separating religion and spirituality.

That's not being "spiritual" at all. You don't get to define me in terms of woo.

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Are you religious or are you spiritual? Wake up to what?

by Deltawave in

there is a huge difference between been religious and been spiritual.

been religious is about been superior to others in the sight of god.

however, been spiritual is about self awareness, inner peace and unity with the natural world.

Viviane

So you don't think we would benefit from
Gratitude instead of jealousy
Giving more than we take
Love our neighbours as ourselves
Or such like Woo ideas then??

Wow, interesting way to pretend I was saying those weren't good ideas when in reality, I've never made such a claim.

More dishonesty... yep, you're being religious for sure.

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Are you religious or are you spiritual? Wake up to what?

by Deltawave in

there is a huge difference between been religious and been spiritual.

been religious is about been superior to others in the sight of god.

however, been spiritual is about self awareness, inner peace and unity with the natural world.

Viviane

Have you read the teachings of these men? Or are you quoting what religion has said about these men? Huge difference.

Oh, look, a false dichotomy!

So, at this point you've made false claims about what these people taught, tried to pass your stuff off as truth, tried to tell all of us what we need and tried to claim you aren't teaching anything, all while wrapping this hubris, arrogance and error in the cloak of fake humility.

This sounds exactly like a religion to me.

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Are you religious or are you spiritual? Wake up to what?

by Deltawave in

there is a huge difference between been religious and been spiritual.

been religious is about been superior to others in the sight of god.

however, been spiritual is about self awareness, inner peace and unity with the natural world.

Viviane

If one writes rules/guidelines how to "be spiritual", isn't one starting a new religion then, effectively?

Exactly. The idea of being "spiritual" but not "religious" is simply a way to complain about religion but still want to promote undefined, meaningless woo.

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Are you religious or are you spiritual? Wake up to what?

by Deltawave in

there is a huge difference between been religious and been spiritual.

been religious is about been superior to others in the sight of god.

however, been spiritual is about self awareness, inner peace and unity with the natural world.

Viviane

Yes that's my point. All the spiritual figures in history taught to same few principles. Principles of which I believe are the mark of true spirituality.

That is not true in any way.