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  Are you religious or are you spiritual? Wake up to what?

  by Deltawave in

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  there is a huge difference between been religious and been spiritual.

  been religious is about been superior to others in the sight of god.

  however, been spiritual is about self awareness, inner peace and unity with the natural world.

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  Viviane

  Well, although you have shown some unusual verbal restraint on this particular thread, here's an example:

  An example has to represent the thing your claiming.

  The above is a cunning way to say the same insult twice: The person may have said something that's not accurate, but you chose the term "dishonesty", knowing full well, that such qualifies the person saying it as "dishonest".

  Calling dishonesty dishonest is an accurate representation and not a personal attack. It's in no way my problem if accuracy offends you. That's really your problem and yours alone. You don't get to put your monkey on my back.

  It's like if I said: "Oh, do you believe in X? Only stupid people believe in X" - and then claim I didn't call that person stupid.

  Or, it's not even remotely like that at all. DW was well aware that Jesus endorsed slavery and was attempting to claim the opposite. It's not at all like what you are claiming.
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  Missing the point?! Is this what Jesus had in mind??

  by Deltawave in

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  is this what jesus had in mind?

  to be a spiritual person you must:.

  underline your books.

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  Viviane

  Wouldn't that depend on whether it was written on tree pulp paper, instead of say parchment, papyrus or how much cotton rag content the paper had?

  Hey, who turned out the lights?

  
  
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  Are you religious or are you spiritual? Wake up to what?

  by Deltawave in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there is a huge difference between been religious and been spiritual.

  been religious is about been superior to others in the sight of god.

  however, been spiritual is about self awareness, inner peace and unity with the natural world.

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  Viviane

  So what is wrong with the practice of meditation Viviane?

  I'll be happy to answer that as soon as anyone can point out where I said anything was wrong with it.
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  Are you religious or are you spiritual? Wake up to what?

  by Deltawave in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there is a huge difference between been religious and been spiritual.

  been religious is about been superior to others in the sight of god.

  however, been spiritual is about self awareness, inner peace and unity with the natural world.

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  Viviane

  If one insists on the right to villify others, it should be no surprise that it comes back to bite you.

  No one has vilified any one. Ideas and claims have been vilified. To say otherwise is to misrepresent reality. Well, except for you trying to attack me. You are a shining example of the very thing you are attempting to claim I did and complain about.

  I forgive you.

  Often, those who overcriticize others for attempting to share their beliefs, are themselves preaching their own set of creeds – be it rationalism, science, theism atheism or whatnot.

  Please let me know if you see anyone doing that. However, unlike your incorrect opening claims about personal attacks, please endeavor to be correct next time.
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  Are you religious or are you spiritual? Wake up to what?

  by Deltawave in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there is a huge difference between been religious and been spiritual.

  been religious is about been superior to others in the sight of god.

  however, been spiritual is about self awareness, inner peace and unity with the natural world.

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  Viviane

  Flippin Norah, remind me never to cross viviane!

  No one has crossed me. I just don't tolerate promoting woo as reality and misrepresenting facts.

  You'll be fine so long as you never form an opinion on anything and be so bold as to post it.

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  Well that's just utterly untrue and ridiculous.

  It seems to me that what gets her going is when someone forms an opinion on something and then posts it as fact.
  In learning to strip off my irrational old personality, I realize that there is a big difference between stating an opinion and stating an opinion as fact.
  So, me posting that statement as fact is gonna get Viviane all riled up.
  However, I don't think she'll say I can't have that opinion, even if she views it as wrong and incorrect and irrational (which, admittedly, it is irrational).

  Winner winner, chicken dinner!

  Deltawave has on a recent thread described accurately the Watchtower discussion at the meeting. He is not Brahma Kumaris, just a JW trying to leave and looking for help. Disgusted! He can't even spell! He is not a threat.

  I can accurately describe a WT discussion and I've not been to a meeting in almost 6 years. Deltawave has a name that it directly associated with the meditative practive of the BKs, is promoting meditation and the teachings of the BKs.
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  Are you religious or are you spiritual? Wake up to what?

  by Deltawave in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there is a huge difference between been religious and been spiritual.

  been religious is about been superior to others in the sight of god.

  however, been spiritual is about self awareness, inner peace and unity with the natural world.

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  Viviane

  I think it's best, in the interest of peace that we all (exception made to Viviane) stop making general statements that common sense (except Viviane's common sense, if it can be proven to exist in lab controlled conditions, I'm just working on an assumption here) would understand it as not applying to 100% of mankind without qualifying first that we're not speaking in her name.

  Aw, look at you trying make personal attacks. You're totes adorbs when you do that.
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  Are you religious or are you spiritual? Wake up to what?

  by Deltawave in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there is a huge difference between been religious and been spiritual.

  been religious is about been superior to others in the sight of god.

  however, been spiritual is about self awareness, inner peace and unity with the natural world.

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  Viviane

  evidence?

  The name "Deltawave", the promotion of the Brahma Kumari ideas and the fact that this has all happened several times over the past few months.

  this discussion is only connected with atheism in that smug atheists such as yourself seem to take delight in p1ssing all over the beliefs of others.

  Oh, so, now you get corrected for the third time today. I piss on unsubstantiated claims. If another atheists were saying the earth were flat or that he could fly or that a teapot orbits Mars I would piss on that just as much, just as I am doing to your false and claim lacking in knowledge regarding my attitude or what I take delight in.
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  Are you religious or are you spiritual? Wake up to what?

  by Deltawave in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there is a huge difference between been religious and been spiritual.

  been religious is about been superior to others in the sight of god.

  however, been spiritual is about self awareness, inner peace and unity with the natural world.

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  Viviane

  I have never heard that expression in my entire life. Wow.

  It happens. It's amazing sometimes that you can go your entire life without knowing what many consider to be common knowledge. Last year someone was at my house helping made a dinner for some friends and asked for a ramekin. I had no idea that a small bowl was called a ramekin but everyone else said that was common knowledge that everyone knew.

  I've no idea how I managed to go my entire life never knowing that.
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  Are you religious or are you spiritual? Wake up to what?

  by Deltawave in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there is a huge difference between been religious and been spiritual.

  been religious is about been superior to others in the sight of god.

  however, been spiritual is about self awareness, inner peace and unity with the natural world.

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  Viviane

  Have a day off, for f*ck's sake.

  Now you've been correct twice.

  To someone new here, i.e. Deltawave, you don't show atheism in a particularly good light.

  First, Deltawave is almost certainly a revamp of the Brahma Kumaris who periodically show up, preach, get booted, make a new account, rinse and repeat.

  Secondly, this discussion has zero to do with atheism, but rather making false claims and displaying arrogance when trying to promote those blatantly false claims.
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  Are you religious or are you spiritual? Wake up to what?

  by Deltawave in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there is a huge difference between been religious and been spiritual.

  been religious is about been superior to others in the sight of god.

  however, been spiritual is about self awareness, inner peace and unity with the natural world.

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  Viviane

  Can I just ask, what the hell is "woo?" I thought it was a typo earlier in the thread.

  woo

  n.(or adj), the way a person is when they uncritically believe unsubstantiated or unfounded ideas. Short for "woo woo".(See Russell's definition of woo woo)

  Shirley believes that in a past life she was the Jolly Green Giant of Rainbowland. Shirley is very woo.