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  Ten Commandments

  by EA916 in

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  should we still be keeping the 10 commandments?

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  Viviane

  So you specifically avoid pork? Avoid wearing clothes made from two different kinds of fabric? You actively avoid shellfish? You sacrifice animals as proscribes? You kill people that worship other gods if they proselytize to you?
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  The Greatest Teacher

  by Harold OMorning in

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  if jesus was really viewed as the greatest teacher who ever lived...........why would a 3rd party need to explain his teaching?

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  Viviane

  I did ask that on another thread. Now I am asking the question above. Can you answer?
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  Ten Commandments

  by EA916 in

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  should we still be keeping the 10 commandments?

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  Viviane

  I am from the US. I believe the law of God is eternal.

  So why don't you keep it, then?
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  The Greatest Teacher

  by Harold OMorning in

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  if jesus was really viewed as the greatest teacher who ever lived...........why would a 3rd party need to explain his teaching?

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  Viviane

  Which God? The Trinitarian God or the God of Abraham? They are not the same.

  Oh? Do tell me more...
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  The Greatest Teacher

  by Harold OMorning in

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  if jesus was really viewed as the greatest teacher who ever lived...........why would a 3rd party need to explain his teaching?

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  Viviane

  All things point to God having enough of it which is why we see so much recklessness in the org. right now plus all the pedo suits coming to light. God has clearly given his back to the WTS.

  The org, in terms of behavior, is no worse than any other group of Christians. That's not a sign of God doing anything.
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  Is Prophecy important?

  by EA916 in

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  hello, i am certainly new to all of this.

  i have recently been studying the prophecy's, and i was wondering if they are of any importance at all?

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  Viviane

  I ask a question. Relevance is something you look for not me.

  I do. I expect someone asking a question to have some kind of idea why it matters. I will not make that mistake with you again.
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  Biblical Prohecies That Came True?

  by Viviane in

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  recently there have been several claims made regarding prophecies that came true.

  i've not personally seen a prophecy that i would consider as having come true.

  i would consider the following as the requirements to say something is a prophecy and evaluate whether or not it came true:.

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  Viviane

  The specific details are there, so much , that people that understand what they read,cannot believe that it is a prophecy but that it was written after the fact.

  Please name one such prophecy.

  God is not going to spell it out for you how you like it

  I didn't ask for it to be spelled out how I like it, nor did I ask God on this thread.

  So far, no apologist has been able to provide a prophecy that came true as foretold exactly with names, dates and details that can be verified. You've claimed that exists, I am very interested in seeing it.

  ( I could draft a much better illustration, but I do not have the time. I trust you get my point.)

  I've no idea what your point is since God is invisible and silent and, rather than idiotically wonder what to do, he idiotically killed everyone everytime he was a little irritated, unlike the woman in your example. She could have called the sheriff, built a fence around her land or, if she was more like me, provide the final warning with her AK47 and shotgun in tow.
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  Is Prophecy important?

  by EA916 in

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  hello, i am certainly new to all of this.

  i have recently been studying the prophecy's, and i was wondering if they are of any importance at all?

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  Viviane

  Your answer was better than Cofty's.

  Cofty's answer is excellent. You've not demonstrated why think your question is relevant.
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  Is Prophecy important?

  by EA916 in

  1. watchtower
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  hello, i am certainly new to all of this.

  i have recently been studying the prophecy's, and i was wondering if they are of any importance at all?

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  Viviane

  Cofty - the may have been written by different people, but the teachings came mainly from the apostles and Paul. Most of the apostles were unlettered.

  What is your proof of that? The gospels contain stories and ideas that are never mentioned by Paul. In fact, he shows zero knowledge of the Jesus of the gospels. Very odd if he was the source of those teachings.

  So if the writings are false, explain how it circulated in a non-internet society. It is noted by many scolars that you could not preach the resurrection of Jesus to such a degree if it were a lie in those times.

  How did Zeus and Thor get to be well known in pre-internet times? Why do you associate the truth of an argument with how widely it was circulated? Also, who are these scholars and which of their works do you refer to?

  Yes you could find writings that apply to Prince Charles, but you could not find some 40 books written over such a period of time that could - with every parallel pointing to him.

  You don't have that.You have claims of that, but when examined, the writings clearly are not about Jesus or are just plan wrong.
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  Is Prophecy important?

  by EA916 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hello, i am certainly new to all of this.

  i have recently been studying the prophecy's, and i was wondering if they are of any importance at all?

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  Viviane

  Do you have a first century source for you claim?

  The writings themselves are the source of that knowledge.