Posts by Viviane

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Dr Monica Applewhite!

by username in

i'm just listening to this so called doctors testimony.

where did the watchtower dig her up from.

her answers have mostly been maybe's and i think!.

Viviane

I am just now watching this, but she is extremely dodgy and sketchy. It seems she's attempted to inflate her credentials. Very unpolished.

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how much do you want to bet that the organization has already started preparing articles for the watchtower magazines, convention talks, circuit overseers talks and letters to bodies of elders, to refute what is happening in australia?

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right now the most important thing for the wt to do is protect their image that they are gods visible organization.especially in the u.s. and latin american countries.

Viviane

On the turning away
From the pale and downtrodden
And the words they say
Which we won't understand
"Don't accept that what's happening
Is just a case of others' suffering
Or you'll find that you're joining in
The turning away"

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The Australian Royal Commission in to Child abuse.

by zeb in

dear moderator,.

it is vital that this matter have its own heading.

please arrange this so comments and understanding and input are not scattered through the site.. so i suggest where we have .

Viviane

It really irks me when someone shows up and starts telling people what they must do and how to do it and fails to realize it's already well in hand while acting like they are in charge or are the only person who can handle it.

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Branch Service Department Manual approves appointing Child molestors as Elders

by stuckinamovement in

http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/downloadfile.ashx?guid=7ba22716-556c-43c2-9fc6-76697afad440&type=exhibit&filename=wat.0001.004.0076&fileextension=pdf

Viviane

Holy shitballs, Batman. I just read that manual. What can I say except...

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FMF Rant on Abuse and JW Apologists: The Single Root of the Whole Issue(s)

by freemindfade in

for the jw apologists, they debate certain factors to down play all the recent sex abuse information in the jehovah's witness organization.

and there is so much focus on "two witness rule" and "parents can report" the "elders aren't legal authorities" and many other smoke screen issues.

a lot of these issues and discussion are down stream from what i believe to be the root of the issue.

Viviane

Well their interest and motive is often in protecting their own ass, their own privacy, and their own embarrassment.

Yeah, they're a bunch of donkey-farking assholes.

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Who or What is the Holy Spirit?

by FusionTheism in

tradition within christianity has long been that any time the phrases holy spirit, holy ghost, or spirit of godare used in the bible (especially in the new testament), it always refers to the mysterious third divine person of the trinity, who is fully god, co-equal to the father and son, yet somehow distinct.. i want to present a simplified alternative view: let the context determine the meaning!.

(one thing to keep in mind is that the meaning of the bible words used for spirit basically is unseen force or invisible presence.).

the holy spirit as the mind and personality of god.

Viviane

After reading a book of Dr. Walter Weber I remembered this thread about "Spirit'". I conclude that "Spirit" is a very appropriate term for the human being in its entire spiritual dimension. This is basis for further thoughs about biblical and religious applications of the term spirit.

Until anyone can define spirit in a way that isn't simply metaphor for something else, this is the equivalent of arguing whether or not Spiderman can beat up Thor, except we have evidence for Spiderman and Thor.

Your argument for basis for thought is nonsense.

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