Posts by Viviane

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WHEN people leave a cult...MAN landed on the moon? Or critical thinking......

by The Rebel in

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i believe anyone who has voluntarily left a cult has shown they can adapt to new solutions, and have used " critical thinking" skills otherwise most would not have left.. yet i believe a safe place for support is still needed and this safe place i believe is searched for.. now i may not measure up to much in ways of education, but for me personally " critical thinking skills" = " new" a " new" way of thinking, that takes time for me the individual to be visual and to contemplate.

and the more i read about " critical thinking," the more convinced i am that i can live with the ridicule of those that claim i do not possess it.

furthermore i would say those that criticise others " critical thinking skills," often luck the sensibility and thoughts to snore, spit, and fart....nor would they understand a room full of tobacco smoke and cheap booze...where " critical thinking " can often be found in its most profound, in the most sensitive poems and "pictures" that were ever drawn.

Viviane

STA... You asked me to enlighten you. There is no whining or making it personal in critical thinking. You and Rebel are both doing that. Don't blame "English as a second language" ( you chose to jump in these threads), don't blame me for what you said or not responding the way you want, don't pretend I'm acting as a moderator, don't pretend I've the power to demand anything of anyone or that what you worry about is any way my fault or that I never answer questions of me.

Consider yourself enlighented.

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WHEN people leave a cult...MAN landed on the moon? Or critical thinking......

by The Rebel in

jw
friends

i believe anyone who has voluntarily left a cult has shown they can adapt to new solutions, and have used " critical thinking" skills otherwise most would not have left.. yet i believe a safe place for support is still needed and this safe place i believe is searched for.. now i may not measure up to much in ways of education, but for me personally " critical thinking skills" = " new" a " new" way of thinking, that takes time for me the individual to be visual and to contemplate.

and the more i read about " critical thinking," the more convinced i am that i can live with the ridicule of those that claim i do not possess it.

furthermore i would say those that criticise others " critical thinking skills," often luck the sensibility and thoughts to snore, spit, and fart....nor would they understand a room full of tobacco smoke and cheap booze...where " critical thinking " can often be found in its most profound, in the most sensitive poems and "pictures" that were ever drawn.

Viviane

My god, it's like you just got training wheels.

Critical thinking is not like computing in anyway. And "garbage in/garbage out" is in no way specific c to databases, be it it oracle, SQL, MySQL, db2, Informix, terradata, exchange or something else.

You're trying to make a point when you don't even understand the concepts. I don't think you even understand the argument beyond "Viviane did something once that hurt my feelings".

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JW's Approach To Bible Interpretaion

by JW_Rogue in

it will come as no surprise to many here that the jw approach to interpreting the bible is greatly flawed.

the reason that it is so flawed is that before anything is examined there are already some false assumptions that are made.

jws believe the following about the bible without evidence:.

Viviane

A lot of whacko cults do that... Methodists, Catholics, baptists, JW, Mormons, Muslims, Buddhists, jainists, etc.

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WHEN people leave a cult...MAN landed on the moon? Or critical thinking......

by The Rebel in

jw
friends

i believe anyone who has voluntarily left a cult has shown they can adapt to new solutions, and have used " critical thinking" skills otherwise most would not have left.. yet i believe a safe place for support is still needed and this safe place i believe is searched for.. now i may not measure up to much in ways of education, but for me personally " critical thinking skills" = " new" a " new" way of thinking, that takes time for me the individual to be visual and to contemplate.

and the more i read about " critical thinking," the more convinced i am that i can live with the ridicule of those that claim i do not possess it.

furthermore i would say those that criticise others " critical thinking skills," often luck the sensibility and thoughts to snore, spit, and fart....nor would they understand a room full of tobacco smoke and cheap booze...where " critical thinking " can often be found in its most profound, in the most sensitive poems and "pictures" that were ever drawn.

Viviane

If you've an issue with whether or not I accepted an apology from you on another thread, bring it up there. Don't threadjack here. I've no idea to which apology you refer.

I've no idea why parsing "may have some skills" is compatible with l"acking" is a problem for you.

I've no idea why you are under the impression that I have a responsibility to post when you think I should.

I cannot help which portions of reality you choose to take offense at.

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WHEN people leave a cult...MAN landed on the moon? Or critical thinking......

by The Rebel in

jw
friends

i believe anyone who has voluntarily left a cult has shown they can adapt to new solutions, and have used " critical thinking" skills otherwise most would not have left.. yet i believe a safe place for support is still needed and this safe place i believe is searched for.. now i may not measure up to much in ways of education, but for me personally " critical thinking skills" = " new" a " new" way of thinking, that takes time for me the individual to be visual and to contemplate.

and the more i read about " critical thinking," the more convinced i am that i can live with the ridicule of those that claim i do not possess it.

furthermore i would say those that criticise others " critical thinking skills," often luck the sensibility and thoughts to snore, spit, and fart....nor would they understand a room full of tobacco smoke and cheap booze...where " critical thinking " can often be found in its most profound, in the most sensitive poems and "pictures" that were ever drawn.

Viviane

It means they may have some critical thinking skills, not necessarily that they do.

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WHEN people leave a cult...MAN landed on the moon? Or critical thinking......

by The Rebel in

jw
friends

i believe anyone who has voluntarily left a cult has shown they can adapt to new solutions, and have used " critical thinking" skills otherwise most would not have left.. yet i believe a safe place for support is still needed and this safe place i believe is searched for.. now i may not measure up to much in ways of education, but for me personally " critical thinking skills" = " new" a " new" way of thinking, that takes time for me the individual to be visual and to contemplate.

and the more i read about " critical thinking," the more convinced i am that i can live with the ridicule of those that claim i do not possess it.

furthermore i would say those that criticise others " critical thinking skills," often luck the sensibility and thoughts to snore, spit, and fart....nor would they understand a room full of tobacco smoke and cheap booze...where " critical thinking " can often be found in its most profound, in the most sensitive poems and "pictures" that were ever drawn.

Viviane

Gold = golf in the above. Also, I do happen to be on vacation, so if I don't respond, well, I'm likely inside the caldera of a volcano.

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WHEN people leave a cult...MAN landed on the moon? Or critical thinking......

by The Rebel in

jw
friends

i believe anyone who has voluntarily left a cult has shown they can adapt to new solutions, and have used " critical thinking" skills otherwise most would not have left.. yet i believe a safe place for support is still needed and this safe place i believe is searched for.. now i may not measure up to much in ways of education, but for me personally " critical thinking skills" = " new" a " new" way of thinking, that takes time for me the individual to be visual and to contemplate.

and the more i read about " critical thinking," the more convinced i am that i can live with the ridicule of those that claim i do not possess it.

furthermore i would say those that criticise others " critical thinking skills," often luck the sensibility and thoughts to snore, spit, and fart....nor would they understand a room full of tobacco smoke and cheap booze...where " critical thinking " can often be found in its most profound, in the most sensitive poems and "pictures" that were ever drawn.

Viviane

Saying I disappear is utterly untrue.see moon landing hoax thread for example. Maybe I just got bored or, you know, had work to do. But disappear? As cofty would say, bollocks.

Gold and critical thinking are similar in that they are both learned skills. You inability to parse that obvious similarity has nothing g to do with my compassion and any statement you make regarding that is and will be certainly not burdened by knowledge.

Rather than be offended when it is (rightly) pointed out that you don't have critical thinking skills, you've the option to fix that as you choose. Whether you do or not is up to you and no one else. Any further further potential offense you may take at reality is up to you. It's got nothing to do with my compassion and everything to do with you.

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WHEN people leave a cult...MAN landed on the moon? Or critical thinking......

by The Rebel in

jw
friends

i believe anyone who has voluntarily left a cult has shown they can adapt to new solutions, and have used " critical thinking" skills otherwise most would not have left.. yet i believe a safe place for support is still needed and this safe place i believe is searched for.. now i may not measure up to much in ways of education, but for me personally " critical thinking skills" = " new" a " new" way of thinking, that takes time for me the individual to be visual and to contemplate.

and the more i read about " critical thinking," the more convinced i am that i can live with the ridicule of those that claim i do not possess it.

furthermore i would say those that criticise others " critical thinking skills," often luck the sensibility and thoughts to snore, spit, and fart....nor would they understand a room full of tobacco smoke and cheap booze...where " critical thinking " can often be found in its most profound, in the most sensitive poems and "pictures" that were ever drawn.

Viviane

The challenge is that ALL people think they are thinking people. That is good because it would be one of the worlds saddest moments if people wandered around thinking "oh my God - I cant think - Im just a waste!" What good would that do, really?

False dichotomy. Recognizing you lack a skill does not mean you therefore think you are a waste. This is a perfect example of an opportunity to correctly blend critical thinking with compassion. If, for instance, someone lacked critical thinking skills by say, using a false dichotomy and then thought they were a waste, a person with good critical thinking skills would realize that isn't true and offer to help with that and point out that he or she isn't a waste but just needs to learn a skill.

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WHEN people leave a cult...MAN landed on the moon? Or critical thinking......

by The Rebel in

jw
friends

i believe anyone who has voluntarily left a cult has shown they can adapt to new solutions, and have used " critical thinking" skills otherwise most would not have left.. yet i believe a safe place for support is still needed and this safe place i believe is searched for.. now i may not measure up to much in ways of education, but for me personally " critical thinking skills" = " new" a " new" way of thinking, that takes time for me the individual to be visual and to contemplate.

and the more i read about " critical thinking," the more convinced i am that i can live with the ridicule of those that claim i do not possess it.

furthermore i would say those that criticise others " critical thinking skills," often luck the sensibility and thoughts to snore, spit, and fart....nor would they understand a room full of tobacco smoke and cheap booze...where " critical thinking " can often be found in its most profound, in the most sensitive poems and "pictures" that were ever drawn.

Viviane

Having critical thinking skills has nothing to do with tobacco smoke filled rooms (what kind of cigars are in your humidor? Mine has at least 8) or liking booze (cheap or expensive) or having or not having compassion.

Having it pointed out that you lack critical thinking skills is no more a ridicule than pointing out that someone doesn't know how to play golf.

Attempting to insult those that correctly pointed out your lack of critical thinking skills as lacking the sensibility to snore, fart or spit only shows that you're engaging in am emotional response to an issue about facts and logic and falsely attempting to equate the two in a general sense using an invalid specific example, thus demostrating the very lack of critical thinking skills you claim to have.

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Evolutionists Who Are Against Darwinism

by Perry in

this is a nice list of evolutionary scientists and their quotes regarding the impossibility of naturalism or materialism being able to account for life as it is observed :.

evolutionists against darwinism.

most, while sympathetic and respectful of their more committed colleagues, are disparaged as morons for not carrying the materialism banner as a religion, as a matter of faith.

Viviane

Perry is once again posting ignorant lies as truth.