Posts by Viviane

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If she doesn't comply an orange jumpsuit is in her future

by DJS in

scotus: kentucky clerk must issue same-sex marriage licenses.

by ariane de vogue, cnn supreme court reporter.

updated 8:02 pm et, mon august 31, 2015. let's hope this is the final screech from the haters who wrap themselves in the bible - or their egoist political philosophy i doubt it will be, but let's hope..

Viviane

According to the law, if she issues same sex marriage licenses, she is guilty of a misdemeaner, until the legislature changes the law.
Some will say "The SCOTUS said same sex couples have the right to marry based on the us constitution". Ok, they said that. But the SCOTUS does not define laws in states.

Yeah, they can. If they accept a case brought to them, they can declare a state law to be valid based on whether or not it complies with the U.S. Constitution. In this case, they said "nope, not valid". Therefore, the law has for force and she would in fact not be committing a misdemeanor.

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If she doesn't comply an orange jumpsuit is in her future

by DJS in

scotus: kentucky clerk must issue same-sex marriage licenses.

by ariane de vogue, cnn supreme court reporter.

updated 8:02 pm et, mon august 31, 2015. let's hope this is the final screech from the haters who wrap themselves in the bible - or their egoist political philosophy i doubt it will be, but let's hope..

Viviane

I think that you are the only person on this thread that did understand the Hint when Judge Bunning said "Risk"

Thinking has been your problem all along. Let's see if it continues to trouble you!

Let me spell it out for you. He said that he did not know if the licenses issued where valid

Yes, he did. He is a federal judge saying he doesn't know something as 1) it is not his job to know that and 2) he is not an expert in the subject. Let's what you do with this absolutely reasonable fact.

He used the word risk.

Yep, he did. So far, so good! You've not done any thinking yet, but getting the facts down is a good start.

In other words, If they wanted to be sure they got a valid license, they should go to another clerk.

Looks like staying on the tracks was too much for you! He didn't use "other words", therefore you, as a demonstrated uninformed person, don't get to pretend to meant he said something else! Also, the county attorney said the licenses were valid, a duly appointed representative of both the county and state!

Thanks for playing, try again next time!

I think that is what he was implying. I am not sure 100 percent. I could be wrong.

Or, you know, you just just read what he said without trying to re-write it to mean something different! Protip: When you claim to be about to "spell it out' for me, that generally means you know what you are talking about. You should try that next time!

Get the picture?

Oh yeah, I do have a picture for someone that is going to "spell it out for me" but is uninformed, changes the story and admits they don't know what they are saying.

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If she doesn't comply an orange jumpsuit is in her future

by DJS in

scotus: kentucky clerk must issue same-sex marriage licenses.

by ariane de vogue, cnn supreme court reporter.

updated 8:02 pm et, mon august 31, 2015. let's hope this is the final screech from the haters who wrap themselves in the bible - or their egoist political philosophy i doubt it will be, but let's hope..

Viviane

The amount of sense Fishperson is making:

508

If she doesn't comply an orange jumpsuit is in her future

by DJS in

scotus: kentucky clerk must issue same-sex marriage licenses.

by ariane de vogue, cnn supreme court reporter.

updated 8:02 pm et, mon august 31, 2015. let's hope this is the final screech from the haters who wrap themselves in the bible - or their egoist political philosophy i doubt it will be, but let's hope..

Viviane

Judge Bunning: Risk

Sentence: Use : Fail : Sense: None

508

If she doesn't comply an orange jumpsuit is in her future

by DJS in

scotus: kentucky clerk must issue same-sex marriage licenses.

by ariane de vogue, cnn supreme court reporter.

updated 8:02 pm et, mon august 31, 2015. let's hope this is the final screech from the haters who wrap themselves in the bible - or their egoist political philosophy i doubt it will be, but let's hope..

Viviane

That is what a pink slip (impeachment) is all about. Government would have dealt with her their way with in due time without any help from the gays.

This may shock you, but "the gays" are in government as well. "The gays" are everywhere! Oh, and government did deal with her. They need to deal with her further, of course, but the process, legal and straightforward, has begun.

508

If she doesn't comply an orange jumpsuit is in her future

by DJS in

scotus: kentucky clerk must issue same-sex marriage licenses.

by ariane de vogue, cnn supreme court reporter.

updated 8:02 pm et, mon august 31, 2015. let's hope this is the final screech from the haters who wrap themselves in the bible - or their egoist political philosophy i doubt it will be, but let's hope..

Viviane

There are no easy answers but then no one anticipated a martyr's fanaticism when they wrote the principles of governance.

I disagree. I think that in fact they did, which is why the licenses are being issued and Kim is in jail.

GAY HUGS FOR EVERYONE!

508

If she doesn't comply an orange jumpsuit is in her future

by DJS in

scotus: kentucky clerk must issue same-sex marriage licenses.

by ariane de vogue, cnn supreme court reporter.

updated 8:02 pm et, mon august 31, 2015. let's hope this is the final screech from the haters who wrap themselves in the bible - or their egoist political philosophy i doubt it will be, but let's hope..

Viviane

That is your erroneous opinion. And by the way, the rest of your post is also your erroneous opinion.

Well, now you know that you've no idea what "opinion" or "erroneous" means and have moved full on into this mode:

Judge Bunning said so.

Judge Bunning said you would think their licenses might be invalidated? What an odd and specific thing to say.

In fact, Bunning said he did not know if their licences were valid, but has zero bearing on the matter as he is a federal judge and has nothing to do with KY law. The county attorney, who DOES deal with county and state law, has in fact said they are valid.

I've noticed that the sum total of everything you've posted on this matter can always be summed up by a Monty Python skit.

508

If she doesn't comply an orange jumpsuit is in her future

by DJS in

scotus: kentucky clerk must issue same-sex marriage licenses.

by ariane de vogue, cnn supreme court reporter.

updated 8:02 pm et, mon august 31, 2015. let's hope this is the final screech from the haters who wrap themselves in the bible - or their egoist political philosophy i doubt it will be, but let's hope..

Viviane

If you mean now, to not risk their licenses being invalid.

Why in the world do you imagine their license would be invalid?

508

If she doesn't comply an orange jumpsuit is in her future

by DJS in

scotus: kentucky clerk must issue same-sex marriage licenses.

by ariane de vogue, cnn supreme court reporter.

updated 8:02 pm et, mon august 31, 2015. let's hope this is the final screech from the haters who wrap themselves in the bible - or their egoist political philosophy i doubt it will be, but let's hope..

Viviane

No risk if they just went to another county (HINT HINT) This judge seems very impartial to me
Instead of going to another county to get the license, they went out of their way to to go through legal proceedings to get Davis punished.
As it was posted previously, all they had to do is go to another jurisdiction to get their license and this woman would not have been punished by the government. It was not the government that wanted her punished
Maybe they are afraid to impeach her (pink slip for not doing her job) because doing so would violate Davis Civil rights.
What I have read in the news articles on the net is not that government is going after Davis for not doing her job, but that gays went after her and demanded that she should be punished.

Let's deal with these erroneous non-arguments, shall we?

1) Part of her duty is to handle marriage licenses that meet the requirements of the law. She does not get to pick and choose which parts of the law she likes. There is no need to go to another county. It is 100% illegal for her to deny a same-sex couple the same license that an opposite-sex couple would get now that same sex marriage is legal. The reason that other people have no been found in contempt of court is because the court has not ordered them to do it and had them refuse. Same sex couple have the right to get a license from the clerk and she has the duty to issue them. End of story.

2) The only way she can be impeached is by the state legislature, who is not in session at the moment. Any discussion of impeachment is moot without the legislature. Being impeached for not doing her sworn duty and violating valid court order is not a violation of civil rights. Honestly, from your poor grasp of everything about this situation, I doubt you even understand what civil rights are.

3). "The gays" did not demand she be punished. She is only being punished for refusal to execute upon her sworn duty. It is her choice to be punished for violating a judges order and it is not done on the say so of "the gays" nor did they demand it.

Seriously, how wrong can you be so often?

508

If she doesn't comply an orange jumpsuit is in her future

by DJS in

scotus: kentucky clerk must issue same-sex marriage licenses.

by ariane de vogue, cnn supreme court reporter.

updated 8:02 pm et, mon august 31, 2015. let's hope this is the final screech from the haters who wrap themselves in the bible - or their egoist political philosophy i doubt it will be, but let's hope..

Viviane

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