Viviane

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  Do you agreed with Ben Carson, Muslim should not become president??

  by James Mixon in

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  i do believe islam conflicts with constitution.

  your thoughts.

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  Viviane

  because lets face it the heart of Islam is necessarily violent and intolerant.

  Of all the many many Muslims I know, not one is violent or intolerant, at least no more so than many of the Christians I know.
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  Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

  by The Rebel in

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  so i was fooled by the witnesses.

  what can i learn from that?

  not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

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  Viviane

  So in conclusion shut up with your little jokes, when you don't even read a thread. Or do me a favour think of something origional to insult me by when your reply.

  Your anger is showing, dear. Is that the source of the attempts to hurt people's feelings?

  rather than foolish belittling comments from people who were only sure they were right.

  This from the guy that's calling names and intentionally trying to hurt others.
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  Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

  by The Rebel in

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  so i was fooled by the witnesses.

  what can i learn from that?

  not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

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  Viviane

  Viviane, I guarantee the man you offerd a bottle of whiskey to would, ( if he could accept ) find sipping the whiskey bitter if he had to read your daily posts

  Whisky isn't sweet and I don't post daily. I assume you were attempting to insult me, but the lack of quality control and accurate data in the attempt undermined any slight you were hoping I would feel or barb you were attempting flick in my direction.

  Having said that, don't let it get you down, keep trying, you'll get there. I mean, not with me, of course, you're utterly impotent when it comes to hurting my feelings, but I am sure you could intentionally hurt someone's feelings if you work at it.

  Well I took a lot of shit from Vivianne and her side kick DJS for this thread.

  No one gave you any shit at all. Not one speck. You're confusing an utter lack of respect for your position (namely that of doing zero research, not bothering to understand the science, logic or thinking of your topic and then somehow expecting your opinion to carry any weight with those that HAVE done the work) with give you shit.

  They are not the same. I assume you are a decent person, well, apart from attempting to hurt people feelings on purpose, of course. That, however, in no way implies, demands or suggests respect for an erroneous opinion and lack of effort on your part.

  So aside from Vivians " insecure" bully comments I learnt that the money spent on the moon project produced a lot of great science that benefited the world I live in today

  Yeah, I get that comment a lot, usually from people, usually men, who are shocked to find that if they don't bother having an opinion worth respecting, I won't bother respecting it. Someone me not respecting their laziness is bullying in their minds, which, interestingly, is another opinion not worth respecting.

  IF we can't respect each other in a civil way, on a discussion forum who cares?

  Again, you're conflating respecting your opinion and position on something you've not bothered to educate yourself on with respect you as a person.

  What right do we have to explore outer space,with the trillions of billions when our own world is falling apart?

  Every right.
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  That's it! The Jesus stories are most reasonably explained as myth. History makes this obvious.

  by Island Man in

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  a careful examination of the historical pagan religious context existing at the time of the genesis of christianity leads any reasonable person to conclude that jesus is just another one of several similar myths.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn7teoa9ark.

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  Death is not something to be feared!

  by iconoclastic in

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  science can explain how of things, but it cannot explain why of certain things (for example, why did life arise from non-life and evolved from simpler creatures to more complex life forms only to die and disappear?

  ) so are the conflicted religions whose chief concern is in safeguarding each ones separate identity..

  next option is to look for pearls among the stonesusing power of our own reason.

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  Viviane

  apart from you viv, who hasn't provided any substance to any argument on this thread that I can see,

  All that tell usbis that you need glasses.
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  If she doesn't comply an orange jumpsuit is in her future

  by DJS in

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  scotus: kentucky clerk must issue same-sex marriage licenses.

  by ariane de vogue, cnn supreme court reporter.

  updated 8:02 pm et, mon august 31, 2015. let's hope this is the final screech from the haters who wrap themselves in the bible - or their egoist political philosophy i doubt it will be, but let's hope..

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  Viviane

  she ain't authorizing her deputies, and she is not in jail.-In spite of Vivian's foul language.

  Foul language? What you babbling about? And she authorized her deputies when she hired them.
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  Death is not something to be feared!

  by iconoclastic in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  science can explain how of things, but it cannot explain why of certain things (for example, why did life arise from non-life and evolved from simpler creatures to more complex life forms only to die and disappear?

  ) so are the conflicted religions whose chief concern is in safeguarding each ones separate identity..

  next option is to look for pearls among the stonesusing power of our own reason.

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  Viviane

  Ruby, calling a woman "hormonal" rather than addressing the substance of her argument is a cheap insult. Smarten up instead of telling me to lighten up.
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  WHEN people leave a cult...MAN landed on the moon? Or critical thinking......

  by The Rebel in

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  i believe anyone who has voluntarily left a cult has shown they can adapt to new solutions, and have used " critical thinking" skills otherwise most would not have left.. yet i believe a safe place for support is still needed and this safe place i believe is searched for.. now i may not measure up to much in ways of education, but for me personally " critical thinking skills" = " new" a " new" way of thinking, that takes time for me the individual to be visual and to contemplate.

  and the more i read about " critical thinking," the more convinced i am that i can live with the ridicule of those that claim i do not possess it.

  furthermore i would say those that criticise others " critical thinking skills," often luck the sensibility and thoughts to snore, spit, and fart....nor would they understand a room full of tobacco smoke and cheap booze...where " critical thinking " can often be found in its most profound, in the most sensitive poems and "pictures" that were ever drawn.

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  Viviane

  I did insert humanity, specifically that part that protects us from the type of thinking that get us anti-vaxers, global warming deniers and the like.
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  WHEN people leave a cult...MAN landed on the moon? Or critical thinking......

  by The Rebel in

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  i believe anyone who has voluntarily left a cult has shown they can adapt to new solutions, and have used " critical thinking" skills otherwise most would not have left.. yet i believe a safe place for support is still needed and this safe place i believe is searched for.. now i may not measure up to much in ways of education, but for me personally " critical thinking skills" = " new" a " new" way of thinking, that takes time for me the individual to be visual and to contemplate.

  and the more i read about " critical thinking," the more convinced i am that i can live with the ridicule of those that claim i do not possess it.

  furthermore i would say those that criticise others " critical thinking skills," often luck the sensibility and thoughts to snore, spit, and fart....nor would they understand a room full of tobacco smoke and cheap booze...where " critical thinking " can often be found in its most profound, in the most sensitive poems and "pictures" that were ever drawn.

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  Viviane

  Depends on how he meant it, Orphan, but I can certainly see a case for your interpretation.
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  WHEN people leave a cult...MAN landed on the moon? Or critical thinking......

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i believe anyone who has voluntarily left a cult has shown they can adapt to new solutions, and have used " critical thinking" skills otherwise most would not have left.. yet i believe a safe place for support is still needed and this safe place i believe is searched for.. now i may not measure up to much in ways of education, but for me personally " critical thinking skills" = " new" a " new" way of thinking, that takes time for me the individual to be visual and to contemplate.

  and the more i read about " critical thinking," the more convinced i am that i can live with the ridicule of those that claim i do not possess it.

  furthermore i would say those that criticise others " critical thinking skills," often luck the sensibility and thoughts to snore, spit, and fart....nor would they understand a room full of tobacco smoke and cheap booze...where " critical thinking " can often be found in its most profound, in the most sensitive poems and "pictures" that were ever drawn.

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  Viviane

  Every dinner my wife makes is special and such does not render the previous dinners un-special or any equal to the others. Despite the fact that sometimes the menu repeats itself.

  All that tells me is that you don't know what "special" means.

  Please do not leave humanity out of your posts. When you stick strictly to the definition of the principle you sound a lot like the WT

  The WT denies reality and twists the meaning of words to suit their agenda. Your complaint can be broken out as "when you stick to the definition of words, you are like those who lie about what words mean". You're literally saying a thing equals the opposite of the thing. It doesn't make sense.

  You are correct Viviane but I believe you missed the point made by the Rebel

  I don't miss the point. I reject it wholly. He writes of the "ridicule" for not possessing critical thinking opportunities on a thread he start to discuss the moon landing. He was provided with facts, evidence, where he could find the information on his own, read analysis of the data and was offered summaries of the analysis. He rejected all of this and attempted to use his feelings as a guide for a science question. He wasn't ridiculed, his argument was rejected. He wasn't abused, he was told that if he would not bother to do any work to learn, then there was zero reason to take his information-free feelings as a guide.

  I reject his argument as an attempt to justify his lack of even cursory work and place it equal to those who have taken the time put the work it. It's laughable.