do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?
even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.
the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.
it's boring repeating points that people quite intelligent enough to understand, are pretending have not been made. [Take vivs LOLtastic response above, a perfect example... "U r dum so i iz rite"]
As I said, a shame but understandable. I know where you're coming from and admire such an approach.
do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?
even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.
the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.
An excerpt from the link provided and worthy of consideration for the atheist position. Your input is not a waste of time, though I fear the emotion of posters with regard to honestly discussing the position will obscure any real discussion. A shame really.
I would be embarassed to make such juvenile arguments as Stuff and that article. The real shame is the lack of education they have but *thnk* they know what they are talking about.
do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?
even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.
the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.
Are you missing the point on purpose?
Once they have "done their best" and posited a silent or absent god, dismissal as "assholegod" or "pointlessgod", is no real response at all. Certainly no disproof.
Doesn't even seem to be trying all that hard to even look like a real reply...
Dismissing someone's god belief as "irrelevant", is no rebuttal. Argumentum ad lapidem.
Dismissing a god as an asshole is also no disproof. Sounds awkwardly like an appeal to emotion (It is after all the only reason offered - and if it is in fact the reason for dismissal - ISan appeal to emotion.).
An appeal to emotion? Perhaps you should understand what "making a point" is before you go all in and try to make one. You certainly aren't capable of building a cogent argument if this is what you are going with. Making a point is, at this point, a long way off lofty goal for you.
But as I said, this could be avoided simply by providing a justification of your dismissal, it wouldn't even need to be a good one. After all - it is you asking people to define their god. It is just dishonest to then respond as you are doing.
Yeah, people that don't understand logic, critical thinking, evidence or reason keep asking for that no matter how much you keep getting it. What makes you think you're going to grasp anything the 100th time around?
No. Untrue. You over step yourself.
Like many fallen before you, you begin your battle with willful ignorance.
It has been shown that a god is not in any way necessary.
There is an extreme difference. (Unless you care to detail the "Proof" that some god didn'tguide things? Sounds impossible to me, I don't know why you'd claim to have done so.)
Well, it's clear you've not bothered to learn any of the debate, so willful ignorance it is!
Anyway, I have a feeling I'm wasting my time.
Lack a belief... lol.
Well, no. You've been exposed to quality higher thinking. You're only wasting your time if you choose to ignore it.
http://skepticexaminer.com/2015/02/why-the-lack-a-belief-response-is-problematic/
Worth a read, if you are a Lacktheist,.
Why am I in no way surprised that you linked to an article that showed exactly the same poor quality of thinking you demonstrated?
do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?
even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.
the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.
Viv - I've made several arguments, however you are the only person to not directly respond to any of my arguments.
Perhaps you have not been away from the Org too long?
No, you've said a lot of meaningless drivel. You've definately not made an argument. As far as how long I've been away from the org, well, you've said a bunch of ignorant assumptions about everyone already, no reason why you shouldn't keep it up, eh?
do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?
even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.
the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.
Cappytan, as soon as you accept that LAWHFol has it all figured out, that everyone is good, and you Fully Accept (caps required) this, you will See Much (caps required) more Good (caps required).
Accept the LAWHFol TRUTH that we are all good! Even Hitler. And y. pestis. And Pol Pot. And rapists, murderers, thieves, child abusers, pedophiles, wife beaters, etc. All good!
do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?
even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.
the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.
You're determined to make assumptions, LAWHFol. No one is doing that and there is no reason you need to know anything about us to make an argument.
Make an argument, make it on your own. Try not peddling bullshit and meaningless drivel.
do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?
even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.
the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.
So, prologos confirmed and LAWHFol agreed, no scientiest ever used this metaphysical made up bullshit you're both peddling to ever make any discovery ever and, in fact, only made discoveries when they rejected this magical thinking and used criticical, quality thinking that reject mush-minded bullshit.
So, the only question is, why are you still trying to peddle this bullshit?
do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?
even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.
the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.
do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?
even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.
the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.
Well, you need to keep looking then, you've not found any "truth", Truth, truth or TRUTH yet.
do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?
even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.
the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.
