Viviane

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  The Old Age

  by Caupon in

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  so now that most of us have come to a semi truthful understanding that the witnesses are wrong about evolutionist, there is a certain question that i have always had.

  now if you were to ask any jw, they'd recite a complete fallacy from scientist regarding this.

  but what is you guys input of this.

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  Viviane

  My two bobs worth. I once did a brief study of science and scientists. That industry is riddled with all the usual jealousies, hates, accusations, scams and straight up lies that religions are blighted with.

  Apparently a "bob" is worth zero.
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  The Old Age

  by Caupon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so now that most of us have come to a semi truthful understanding that the witnesses are wrong about evolutionist, there is a certain question that i have always had.

  now if you were to ask any jw, they'd recite a complete fallacy from scientist regarding this.

  but what is you guys input of this.

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  Viviane

  At the same time, you got be careful not to misplace your trust in "science." That would be idolatry too. It's just people's ideas. Some sound, some not so sound.

  So get off the internet, stop driving, taking medicine, using the internet, taking a plane, a train, eating, turning on your lights, drinking water, etc., because all of that comes to you courtesy of the same science you deride.
  
  
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  Does Anyone Still Believe in God?

  by LaurenM in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?

  even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.

  the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.

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  Viviane

  It's somehow comforting to see that stupid posters are still proud of their ignorance and still posting away, proving stupid is something we can't fix, like a mental disorder
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  Cult or Religion

  by Richard C B in

  1. watchtower
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  what is a cult and what is a religion?

  its open to debate.

  who has the authority to say for certain what is a cult and what is a religion?

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  Viviane

  As I said, if he's not pretending, what's his agenda?
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  Cult or Religion

  by Richard C B in

  1. watchtower
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  what is a cult and what is a religion?

  its open to debate.

  who has the authority to say for certain what is a cult and what is a religion?

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  Viviane

  So you've moved from defending them to promoting them.

  I ask again, what is your agenda?
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  Cult or Religion

  by Richard C B in

  1. watchtower
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  what is a cult and what is a religion?

  its open to debate.

  who has the authority to say for certain what is a cult and what is a religion?

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  Viviane

  I'm not making a mountain out of a molehill, but the fact remains that, when presented with a fact that didn't fit your narrative, you went straight to making up something extra-biblical to justify it.
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  Cult or Religion

  by Richard C B in

  1. watchtower
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  what is a cult and what is a religion?

  its open to debate.

  who has the authority to say for certain what is a cult and what is a religion?

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  Viviane

  Richard, it's clear (assuming you aren't playing dumb) that you don't know much about the JWs. You've shown a willingness to make things up, to dismiss reality and either minimize or maximize things to suit your agenda.

  Having never been a JW and not knowing much about them, what is your agenda in defending them?
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  Cult or Religion

  by Richard C B in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what is a cult and what is a religion?

  its open to debate.

  who has the authority to say for certain what is a cult and what is a religion?

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  Viviane

  Richard, what is your agenda in defending the JWs?
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  Cult or Religion

  by Richard C B in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what is a cult and what is a religion?

  its open to debate.

  who has the authority to say for certain what is a cult and what is a religion?

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  Viviane

  I am still wondering what Richard's agenda is for defending the WT, making things up and suggesting that the fishermen of antiquity were in a lucrative business (they weren't).

  What is your agenda for these underhanded methods?
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  Cult or Religion

  by Richard C B in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what is a cult and what is a religion?

  its open to debate.

  who has the authority to say for certain what is a cult and what is a religion?

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  Viviane

  @viviane i supose this is just a platform for attack then not to be reasonable.

  What is your agenda that is served by victim blaming and making extra-biblical claims?