i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?
was it the wts and all its crap?
was it something you read?
All facts are beliefs.
Untrue.
They are not being intellectually dishonest. They are just being ignorant or wrong.
They have been told and choose to remain ignorant.
Someone who is aware that "facts" belong in the catagory of "belief", but who continues to say that "you don't have to believe a fact", would be intellectually dishonest.
Why wod someone believe that to be true?
What value are you adding?
i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?
was it the wts and all its crap?
was it something you read?
If you guys don't believe that the following quote is indicative of calling someone a bull****er than please accept my apologies
We'll, he didn't call anyone a bullshitter. That'reality, not a belief. Apology accepted.
Everybody has a right to express themselves as they see fit but expressing oneself in a professional, firm yet courteous way, can lead to even more insight and participation by other members who won't feel intimidated by the harsh and pointed language specifically aimed at members who disagree with another member's opinion albeit factual information.
So... Everyone has a right to express themselves but do it you way? Oh, and you'll also claim they said things they didn't? Seems like you need a mirror and your own advice.
This can only lead to a deeper more meaningful productive discussion.
Your way is the only way? Yeah, I'm not in any way surprised that you're religious. That's a theme with you guys.
i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?
was it the wts and all its crap?
was it something you read?
I always make sure that I can back up what I post. You're lack of ability to do the same is not my problem.
To be fair, whether not I want something is irrelevant. It's about what you want. If you want to be taken seriously, the back up your claims. That you're obfuscating and prevaricating and attempting to blame me for you failure in the equivalent of a childish tantrum doesn't harm me, it simply shows you're not yet ready for a rational, evidence and fact based discussion.
i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?
was it the wts and all its crap?
was it something you read?
Cofty, while you didn't spell it out, you did call EOM a bull***ter.
He didn't call EoM a bullshitter, but you want to claim he did anyway.
EOM did also throw some jabs at both of you which is also not very nice.
I've long ago let go of any expectation for Christians to be nice. They are in a blood cult that promises to murder then torture you for all eternity, after all, if you don't agree with them.
here is an idea i tested.
works at both assemblies and conventions.
i have noticed at the last convention and at my last assembly that when i opened up my wifi setting, tons of hotspots came up for people tethering their tablets to their smart phones.
Let me make it clear to you that it was never my intention to hijack anything. Let me make it clear again that redirecting someone to a web based content with a DNS server of your own local network (without sharing the public internet) is not DNS hijacking. Call it captive portal if you want
Of course it isn't. Hijacking DNS, however, is exactly what you proposed and is what you are now claiming to have proposed.
i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?
was it the wts and all its crap?
was it something you read?
I ask that, out of respect for other contributors, you refrain from attacking someone personally.
Can you quote where you think Cofty personally insulted someone? I can't find it.
here is an idea i tested.
works at both assemblies and conventions.
i have noticed at the last convention and at my last assembly that when i opened up my wifi setting, tons of hotspots came up for people tethering their tablets to their smart phones.
Here you go. Clarification is towards the end of the thread.
Let's go with your opening post on that thread:If you had the power to direct someone to a website, even against the user's will (DNS redirect for example), which site would it be?
That's DNS hijacking. When someone else later mentioned a pirate box, you latched onto that idea and tried to go with that being what you said, but it was clearly not. You specifically mentioned forcing connections via DNS redirects which, by definition, is DNS hijacking.
here is an idea i tested.
works at both assemblies and conventions.
i have noticed at the last convention and at my last assembly that when i opened up my wifi setting, tons of hotspots came up for people tethering their tablets to their smart phones.
The idea I proposed before did not involve sharing the open internet. It was about setting up your own web/DNS server on the same piratebox. I don't believe that qualifies as DNS hijacking when you create your own private network with no outside access.
Can you link me to that thread? I looked and can't find it.
i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?
was it the wts and all its crap?
was it something you read?
Google is your friend
Google didn't make the assertion, you did. Time to back it up if you expect to be taken seriously.
It this point, it simply sounds like you read a shitty paper, took a complete misunderstanding of science, DNA, teleology, computing, logic and forming and argument and ran with it and now are trying to get of out backing up a single thing you claimed.
That about sum it up?
i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?
was it the wts and all its crap?
was it something you read?
Damnit Viv that was my word!!
I know. I'm crafty like that.
Let's look at a textbook definition of it
Wikipedia is not a textbook.
Actually I should have just told you to read a basic 5th grade science book to understand DNA then get back to me.
Why, is that your level of understanding? If so, it would explain a lot...
