Viviane

Joined

• started 16 topics
• posted 4,484 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by Viviane

• 
  63

  Just found out their about to baptise my 14 year old boy.

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  there doing this right under my nose but i just found out.

  not sure what to do but would like your help on getting me wt information on my headship role and how they shouldn't be doing this with out my permission.

  also would like some help on showing my son the ramifications on what happens to someone when they get baptized and how they'll expect him to treat me.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Viviane

  Let me ask you a question, how much time do you have before this event happens?
• 
  63

  Just found out their about to baptise my 14 year old boy.

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  there doing this right under my nose but i just found out.

  not sure what to do but would like your help on getting me wt information on my headship role and how they shouldn't be doing this with out my permission.

  also would like some help on showing my son the ramifications on what happens to someone when they get baptized and how they'll expect him to treat me.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Viviane

  Were I you, I would seek immediate legal redress. There is precedent for children not being allowed to be baptized into a faith if the parents disagree.
• 
  166

  Mobile Hotspot - JWFACTS.COM - Assembly & Conventions

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here is an idea i tested.

  works at both assemblies and conventions.

  i have noticed at the last convention and at my last assembly that when i opened up my wifi setting, tons of hotspots came up for people tethering their tablets to their smart phones.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Viviane

  An IT consultant Viviane? That explains a lot. Accustomed to tell everyone that you know better and walk away with a check. Never actually having to put the sweat in to make it happen.

  People often fall back on that when they've got no actual argument against reality. It's basically name calling on your part, making ignorant assumptions and assertions about what I do and how I do it because your own words prove you wrong and your only recourse is to lash out at me in a vain attempt to feel good about yourself. So, yeah, it DOES say a lot, and all of it about you, none of it good.
• 
  212

  Why Do You No Longer Believe in God?

  by Tenacious in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?

  was it the wts and all its crap?

  was it something you read?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Viviane

  This is fairly easy. You can find many examples of evolving computer program within the field of evolutionary computing. To start you can go to google scholar and search for "genetic algorithm" (1.9mio hits), or if you prefer an ordering by application domain and specific programs check out the list on wikipedia:

  That's not at all what the question was.

  I notice you appended "on it's own" to EOM's statement.

  No, I didn't do that at all. Read more closely.

  This would (strictly speaking!) make your statement true since a computer program "on it's own" presumably would be a computer program without a medium to run it, however this would clearly also be a strawman.

  Of course it isn't. I didn't misrepresent his argument or change it. The question was asked very specifically the way it was do demonstrate the teleological error or saying that because programs today must to designed to evolve, then biology must have been also.

  Far from a strawman, the whole point of that was to compare and contrast computing technology with biology and highlight the dangers of attempting to retroactively assign meaning and make assumptions about past events based on a completely unrelated event today, particularly when the poster has demonstrated a poor understanding of both.

  That could have been a fruitful and engaging discussion has EoM chosen not to abandon it. You simply missed the entire point in your desire to create a "gotcha" moment with me.

  BTW, EoM, this is a GREAT example of me making sure I can back up what I post, despite your thoughts otherwise.
• 
  212

  Why Do You No Longer Believe in God?

  by Tenacious in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?

  was it the wts and all its crap?

  was it something you read?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Viviane

  All facts are beliefs.

  Untrue.

  They are not being intellectually dishonest. They are just being ignorant or wrong.

  They have been told and choose to remain ignorant.

  Someone who is aware that "facts" belong in the catagory of "belief", but who continues to say that "you don't have to believe a fact", would be intellectually dishonest.

  Why wod someone believe that to be true?

  What value are you adding?
• 
  212

  Why Do You No Longer Believe in God?

  by Tenacious in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?

  was it the wts and all its crap?

  was it something you read?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Viviane

  If you guys don't believe that the following quote is indicative of calling someone a bull****er than please accept my apologies

  We'll, he didn't call anyone a bullshitter. That'reality, not a belief. Apology accepted.

  Everybody has a right to express themselves as they see fit but expressing oneself in a professional, firm yet courteous way, can lead to even more insight and participation by other members who won't feel intimidated by the harsh and pointed language specifically aimed at members who disagree with another member's opinion albeit factual information.

  So... Everyone has a right to express themselves but do it you way? Oh, and you'll also claim they said things they didn't? Seems like you need a mirror and your own advice.

  This can only lead to a deeper more meaningful productive discussion.

  Your way is the only way? Yeah, I'm not in any way surprised that you're religious. That's a theme with you guys.
• 
  212

  Why Do You No Longer Believe in God?

  by Tenacious in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?

  was it the wts and all its crap?

  was it something you read?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Viviane

  I always make sure that I can back up what I post. You're lack of ability to do the same is not my problem.

  To be fair, whether not I want something is irrelevant. It's about what you want. If you want to be taken seriously, the back up your claims. That you're obfuscating and prevaricating and attempting to blame me for you failure in the equivalent of a childish tantrum doesn't harm me, it simply shows you're not yet ready for a rational, evidence and fact based discussion.
• 
  212

  Why Do You No Longer Believe in God?

  by Tenacious in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?

  was it the wts and all its crap?

  was it something you read?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Viviane

  Cofty, while you didn't spell it out, you did call EOM a bull***ter.

  He didn't call EoM a bullshitter, but you want to claim he did anyway.

  EOM did also throw some jabs at both of you which is also not very nice.

  I've long ago let go of any expectation for Christians to be nice. They are in a blood cult that promises to murder then torture you for all eternity, after all, if you don't agree with them.
• 
  166

  Mobile Hotspot - JWFACTS.COM - Assembly & Conventions

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here is an idea i tested.

  works at both assemblies and conventions.

  i have noticed at the last convention and at my last assembly that when i opened up my wifi setting, tons of hotspots came up for people tethering their tablets to their smart phones.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Viviane

  Let me make it clear to you that it was never my intention to hijack anything. Let me make it clear again that redirecting someone to a web based content with a DNS server of your own local network (without sharing the public internet) is not DNS hijacking. Call it captive portal if you want

  Of course it isn't. Hijacking DNS, however, is exactly what you proposed and is what you are now claiming to have proposed.
• 
  212

  Why Do You No Longer Believe in God?

  by Tenacious in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?

  was it the wts and all its crap?

  was it something you read?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Viviane

  I ask that, out of respect for other contributors, you refrain from attacking someone personally.

  Can you quote where you think Cofty personally insulted someone? I can't find it.