Posts by Viviane

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The Effects of Sexual Abstinence Before Marriage
by cofty in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
very interesting article on the psychology of sexual abstinence and the effects it can have on sex life after marriage.

it focusses on an evangelical group for single men called "the river" but the attitudes will be familiar to born-in jws.. ___________________________.

..respondents had been told, since they were young, that women were nonsexual.
Viviane

People who want until marriage to have sex have a much lower divorce rate than those who engage in premarital sex.
The second link is about young teens having sex, particularly when it is unwanted, not about pre-marital sex in particular.
The third link is about a variety of factors such as how many partners, whether or not someone was into hooking up, whether or not they were faithful, to determine the quality of a marriage partner, not about pre-marital sex is particular.
Seriously, do people think no one will read their links and notice the claims don't match reality?
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Why Do You No Longer Believe in God?
by Tenacious in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?

was it the wts and all its crap?

was it something you read?
Viviane

Obviously nobody is reading objectively and that is where I see that there is something else behind some of the opinions.
Yes, it's everyone else's fault that your contradictory and muddled writing is troublesome to understand.
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Why Do You No Longer Believe in God?
by Tenacious in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?

was it the wts and all its crap?

was it something you read?
Viviane

Viv, you asked for an example of a computer program that evolved and i provided a list
No, I didn't.
I really dont get why you interact the way you do with people on this forum
OK.
Are you happy?
Incredibly so. What does that have to do with you not answering my question or understanding things?
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Why Do You No Longer Believe in God?
by Tenacious in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?

was it the wts and all its crap?

was it something you read?
Viviane

At the very least I would say they are entitled to spread their belief so long they would allow the rest of us to discuss it openly without retaliation.
And yet you are complaining discussing religious beliefs opening and without fear of retaliation.
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Why Do You No Longer Believe in God?
by Tenacious in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?

was it the wts and all its crap?

was it something you read?
Viviane

That is off course, provided that their belief is not actually damaging you personally.
Yet you recently spoke on others behalf to tell them how to behave and that they were miserable.
What I am saying is that there needs to be respect for the belief of others.
Do you respect the beliefs of NAMBLA? Anti-vaxxers? Religious people who deny their children life saving medical care?
If you take it, and they demand your proof, then I believe you own it to your ideals to provide it.
Of course. Who has said otherwise?
I am not saying that is what you are doing cofty, but in such cases, the respectful thing to do is to drop your evidence and let others draw their conclusions.
Why is it respectful to deny evidence and reality?
That is exactly what I am talking about. Your standards needs to be everyone else's standards. Unless of course you need to bash someone. Then the standards are out the window.
Huh? I asked why I should expect others to require evidence but not need it myself. You're off in makes-no-sense land rambling.
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Why Do You No Longer Believe in God?
by Tenacious in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?

was it the wts and all its crap?

was it something you read?
Viviane

I am talking about personal belief.
Why would I personally have less standards than I expect others to have?
If you think a certain topic is stupid or has no evidence or foundation, simply stay out of it.
So, you tell us what to do and then....
Let the others continue with their lives.
Say to leave other people alone and let them do what they way. Why are you not consistent?
Insisting on the contrary only shows an outwardly expression of your misery.
So, after complaining about some people calling other people idiots, you decide to tell people they are miserable?
Seriously, you are doing everything you are complaining about. Did you not notice that?
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Why Do You No Longer Believe in God?
by Tenacious in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?

was it the wts and all its crap?

was it something you read?
Viviane

You still haven't answered bohm.
Absolutely I did, with a rather long answer, in fact, explaining why I didn't change anything that EoM wrote and why I worded the question the way I did.
Continuing to deny that is simply dishonesty.
She ignores people who answer her with facts and plays debating tricks with words.
Nope, I answered bohm in great detail with very specific words to illustrate a point. That you don't like understand that is irrelevant to the fact.
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Why Do You No Longer Believe in God?
by Tenacious in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?

was it the wts and all its crap?

was it something you read?
Viviane

I'm always open to evidence.
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Why Do You No Longer Believe in God?
by Tenacious in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?

was it the wts and all its crap?

was it something you read?
Viviane

You should also note this thread is titled " Why do you no longer believe in God" so I assumed comments would offer evidence to that effect.
You're taking "why don't I believe in god" and trying to turn it into "I can prove god doesn't exist". Those aren't the same things.
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Why Do You No Longer Believe in God?
by Tenacious in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?

was it the wts and all its crap?

was it something you read?
Viviane

If you could give me a straight answer as why you say God does not exist I would appreciate it
I didn't say God does not exist.
Viviane I am an athiest, but you are the respected celebrated lawyer and expert on this board, alwaysgiving giving a funeral to those that believe in God
Your snark is noted and dismissed.
Personally I have no problem with that, if you could prove God does not exist. But you can't.
Define "god".
My conclusion is even Athiests like Viviane and the Rebel without being able to offer conclusive evidence God does not exist can be wrong.
Everyone is wrong about something sometimes. That has nothing to do with this.