Viviane

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  God is Real in Principle

  by looter in

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  now the majority of people nowadays do no go by the hope of old times.

  now the reason for this is important and goes beyond mere words.

  our culture sees ethics especially national or civil politics as the rules and standards by which we guide ourselves.

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  But who is usually more sensible and more capable of being sensible?A human beings main advantage over an animal is their intellectual capacity. That's exactly why I used the word unique.

  Define "sensible". Also, are you now just saying it's not a matter of a special thing but rather a matter of degree? That's not what unique means. It's literally the opposite of what "unique" means. You could not be more wrong if you tried.

  No wonder you can't communicate your ideas. You actually have no idea what the words you are using mean.

  I already did that in my original post.

  In fact, you claimed you could not do that. You literally claimed you could not possibly do what you are now claiming to have done. Which is it? No wonder you are so misunderstood, you don't even understand your own words.
  

  I'm grateful of that process as everyone should but you act like the scientific method is infallible.

  I never made that claim. Please stop making false claims.

  The fact that it was developed over several hundred years tells of how much it has changed from the first incarnation. And it will do nothing but continue to change as humans get wiser and wiser. This seems to be the case with replicability of a scarce amount of confirmed science.

  So you admit all of your claims about the scientific method were incorrect. Excellent. Now, before you proceed, please re-frame your argument using all the correct information that you now have. I ask for this so you don't pretend that having been wrong on all of your major points and arguments somehow makes those prior incorrect statements correct.

  Why? Irrationality really is another manner in which we are able to survive and deal with the world.

  You clearly have no idea what "irrational" means. Sadly, it seems your level of thought has stopped at https://www.reddit.com/r/im14andthisisdeep/

  For you to say I'm alive because of the scientific method shows that you view it in the same light as a believer does to God

  All it does is show how little you know of science, god, faith or me. You're not 14 and this isn't deep. Develop your argument and be open to the idea of being wrong. You certainly are, but you don't have the intelligence, learning or quality thinking yet to know that.

  
  
  
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  God is Real in Principle

  by looter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  now the majority of people nowadays do no go by the hope of old times.

  now the reason for this is important and goes beyond mere words.

  our culture sees ethics especially national or civil politics as the rules and standards by which we guide ourselves.

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  Viviane

  OrphanCrow, the scientific method's process was created by someone's unique technique which was based on him and the way he saw things. That way works for most people but not for everyone.

  The scientific method was developed of thousands of years across many cultures as a way to investigate reality without allowing human bias to influence the investigations. The very fact that you are alive and using a computer to post your comments instead of using spirit to do so is proof of that.
  
  
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  God is Real in Principle

  by looter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  now the majority of people nowadays do no go by the hope of old times.

  now the reason for this is important and goes beyond mere words.

  our culture sees ethics especially national or civil politics as the rules and standards by which we guide ourselves.

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  Viviane

  That what you call "irrationality" is just another way individuals are able to be practical and problem solvers.

  You literally could not be more wrong if you tried. There is no level of wrongness more than what you achieved with that sentence. It's approach the level of "not even wrong".
  
  
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  God is Real in Principle

  by looter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  now the majority of people nowadays do no go by the hope of old times.

  now the reason for this is important and goes beyond mere words.

  our culture sees ethics especially national or civil politics as the rules and standards by which we guide ourselves.

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  Viviane

  Here's where the real difficult part comes. It's really tough to explain what I really mean in just a few words without someone confusing it.

  It's not difficult at all. Summarize your point, then write as much or as little as you need to support your point(s). Use logic, critical thinking, evidence and reasoning to explain the connections and form your argument.
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  God is Real in Principle

  by looter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  now the majority of people nowadays do no go by the hope of old times.

  now the reason for this is important and goes beyond mere words.

  our culture sees ethics especially national or civil politics as the rules and standards by which we guide ourselves.

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  Viviane

  The true essence of who we are is our unique ability to be sensible and solve problems. Two people who have carbon copy beliefs can see things in a completely different way. But, if their beliefs lead to virtue, goodness, and peace then I find that astonishing since we as human beings have struggled with this since beginning times. I'm just putting in to context how that specific ability of ours is like a God in that it can help us to become the best person we can

  There are animals that use tools and solve problems. Animals certainly can be sensible. So far you've not told me what the essence of who we are is. What if a person can't solve problems and is insensible? Do they have no essence? Your comments on beliefs and essence have nothing tying them together.
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  God is Real in Principle

  by looter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  now the majority of people nowadays do no go by the hope of old times.

  now the reason for this is important and goes beyond mere words.

  our culture sees ethics especially national or civil politics as the rules and standards by which we guide ourselves.

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  Viviane

  What is the essence of who we are as a person? You've just replaced one undefined term with another. What is an inner spirit of value? Christians have different values from each other. What do these terms mean?
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  God is Real in Principle

  by looter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  now the majority of people nowadays do no go by the hope of old times.

  now the reason for this is important and goes beyond mere words.

  our culture sees ethics especially national or civil politics as the rules and standards by which we guide ourselves.

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  Viviane

  Rebelfighter, even Christians can't agree on what they mean. Why should any of the rest of us bother when they can't get it together?
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  God is Real in Principle

  by looter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  now the majority of people nowadays do no go by the hope of old times.

  now the reason for this is important and goes beyond mere words.

  our culture sees ethics especially national or civil politics as the rules and standards by which we guide ourselves.

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  Viviane

  Looter, if you can tell me what the soul is, the thing that hears the voice of God, then we can begin a discussion. If you can't, then you've said nothing.
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  I conclude evolution is guided

  by KateWild in

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  your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

  k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

  in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

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  Viviane

  Explain succinctly why a coin toss explanation is wrong.

  Because no coin toss is influenced by previous tosses nor influences future tosses. In autocatalysis, the initial toss completely determines the outcome. There are no more tosses, it's all physics and chemistry happening according to well known rules.
  
  
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  I conclude evolution is guided

  by KateWild in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

  k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

  in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

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  Viviane

  How I've missed Viv's mindless flapping as she struggles to make her point.

  I don't really remember you. Have we spoken before?