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  There is science that prove God exists

  by HopeEverLasting in

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  jehovahs witnesses think that just the bible is proof that god exists but they are wrong.

  there is another mode for how he exists.

  now we all know many scientists who are creationists now weren’t creationists until they examined the evidence for themselves.

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  Viviane

  HEL is a coward and even explain his beliefs. Done.
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  There is science that prove God exists

  by HopeEverLasting in

  1. jw
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  jehovahs witnesses think that just the bible is proof that god exists but they are wrong.

  there is another mode for how he exists.

  now we all know many scientists who are creationists now weren’t creationists until they examined the evidence for themselves.

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  Viviane

  Viviane If you choose to believe in something as silly as unicorns, then that's on you. And since when is defining God a tough question?

  Why is a horse with a horn on it's head sillier than an invisible, undetectable all powerful all knowing all loving mass murderer?

  And if it isn't so tough, then go ahead and do it. Does your courage match your conviction is the question. You've already shown you're afraid you will get hung with your own rope.

  And show us your logic for "god being the only logical explanation". Remember, can't apply to unicorn farts.
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  There is science that prove God exists

  by HopeEverLasting in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  jehovahs witnesses think that just the bible is proof that god exists but they are wrong.

  there is another mode for how he exists.

  now we all know many scientists who are creationists now weren’t creationists until they examined the evidence for themselves.

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  Viviane

  Viviane when you say that absolutely nothing is impossible to not exist then you are saying God is real since the prospect of him not existing is as you put it, impossible.

  That's not at all what I said. Try again. Here's some help. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YSqCtbz5mc

  We're waiting on your explanation of why it's not magical unicorn farts instead of God.
  
  

  You just want me to define him so you could attack me for it. All I have to say to that is kiss mine.

  You can't do it so you get nasty. Typical theist. You want to pretend you have answers to tough questions, but then you realize you can't answer anything and you've been exposed for a charlatan, so out come the claws and blaming everything and everyone but yourself.
  
  
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  I believe in Evolution and that God created life

  by Crabby in

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  anyone else also hold this view or understand it at least, or do you feel the need to argue that both can in no way coexist?.

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  Viviane

  I know that JW's do not study any sort of science, thus they have no rights to comment on such topics. Thus the JW World View is one of purposeful ignorance, but since ignorance is bliss you are quite happy.

  I'm not a JW, ShortRound.

  So, now that Viv's Law is proven correct again, here's what I predict. After repeated attempts to weasel out of showing how his statement is scientific, short stuff over there will call more names, get angry, amp up the personal attacks and declare it stupid and call names and say we wouldn't get it even if he did. Basically, he's going to go Full Trumptard.

  you heard it here first.
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  There is science that prove God exists

  by HopeEverLasting in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  jehovahs witnesses think that just the bible is proof that god exists but they are wrong.

  there is another mode for how he exists.

  now we all know many scientists who are creationists now weren’t creationists until they examined the evidence for themselves.

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  Viviane

  Viviane what made the gravity and light? The only logical answer is God.

  Explain the logic, please. Draw the connections between "you don't know" and arrive at God. Your argument must be airtight with no other options.

  For instance, why wasn't it two gods? Or three? Or a unicorn farting?Your argument of "the only logical answer" must preclude any of those, otherwise it isn't "the only logical answer".

  BTW, here you go... http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/about-us/101-the-universe/cosmology-and-the-big-bang/general-questions/570-where-did-the-matter-in-the-universe-come-from-intermediate

  It appears that the answer of "where did it come from" is actually answered by "it's probably impossible for nothing to exist" and, if you reject that, be aware that the same reason you question a non-supernatural universe also applies to your god, as in, "OK, it was God, now where did God come from. Something like that must have had a creator".

  Logically, once you posit that something can exist without a First Cause or creator, you've opened the door to not needing the creator or First Cause. If you insist that in order for something instead of nothing to exist, then your First Cause or creator, God, by logical necessity must have had a creator or First cause as well, so on and so forth to infinite regression.

  But, go ahead, explain away why "God is the only logical explanation" to us. Remember, airtight, can't be applied to magical, undetectable unicorn farts.
  
  
  
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  There is science that prove God exists

  by HopeEverLasting in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  jehovahs witnesses think that just the bible is proof that god exists but they are wrong.

  there is another mode for how he exists.

  now we all know many scientists who are creationists now weren’t creationists until they examined the evidence for themselves.

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  Viviane

  Viviane you still don't know what caused these planets to come to be formed. There's your evidence.

  Gravity and light elements are what caused it. But, even if we didn't know, "God" isn't the answer to I don't know.
  
  
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  There is science that prove God exists

  by HopeEverLasting in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  jehovahs witnesses think that just the bible is proof that god exists but they are wrong.

  there is another mode for how he exists.

  now we all know many scientists who are creationists now weren’t creationists until they examined the evidence for themselves.

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  Viviane

  Well we COULD be a little less harsh on Hope here.

  So.... Asking for proof and saying we disagree with someone telling us we're all wrong and all evidence is wrong is harsh?
  

  Points of scientific method aside, the real question asked is, if everything came from nothing, then what created the nothing? It's as old a question as the chicken and the egg.

  What do you mean by "nothing"? There is literally not example of "nothing" in the universe.
  
  

  Many physicists are talking now about the 'God particle,' subatomic anomalies that cannot be explained with current scientific models. They operate outside the known laws of physics and perhaps are doorways to other dimensions.

  That is not at all what the God particle its. It's the Higgs boson, a particle that creates a field that gives other particles mass. It was predicted BY the known laws of physics.

  Also, based on observations, the laws we know about and using mathematical particles, we KNOW there are more particles out there.
  

  They simply can't express that view publicly, as it would cause them to lose credibility in the scientific community.

  Wrong again. What they lose credibility for is bringing their religious beliefs into the lab.
  
  
  
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  There is science that prove God exists

  by HopeEverLasting in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  jehovahs witnesses think that just the bible is proof that god exists but they are wrong.

  there is another mode for how he exists.

  now we all know many scientists who are creationists now weren’t creationists until they examined the evidence for themselves.

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  Viviane

  Let's be clear if the earth was created by no one then you are certain that God didn't create the other planets in which there is no proof for that.

  Every bit of available evidence indicates nothing supernatural was involved in planetary formation. If you've evidence to the contrary, please present it.
  

  If I say it proves God exists then it does.

  You're just proving Jeff's point. You saying something doesn't make it true. If you've evidence to the contrary, please present it.

  Or that they were evolution themselves? Let's not act like they are totally different.

  Planetary formation and evolution are very different. If you've evidence to the contrary, please present it.
  

  Whose to say those planets weren't formed by God.

  Every single bit of available evidence shows otherwise. If you've evidence to the contrary, please present it.
  
  
  
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  There is science that prove God exists

  by HopeEverLasting in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  jehovahs witnesses think that just the bible is proof that god exists but they are wrong.

  there is another mode for how he exists.

  now we all know many scientists who are creationists now weren’t creationists until they examined the evidence for themselves.

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  Viviane

  I do mean we could say science proves God exists because some of the best scientists have saw fit for themselves through a lot of research that God exists

  More than do believe don't. What's your point.
  

  And that everything came from nothing.

  What do you mean by "nothing"?

  All atheistic evolutionists cannot seem to explain how other planets were formed.

  Evolution has nothing to do with planetary formation. Regardless...http://hubblesite.org/hubble_discoveries/discovering_planets_beyond/how-do-planets-form

  At least the creationist scientist were able to research and see for themselves what made sense instead of baseless assumptions.

  Please show us this research that has more supporting evidence than traditional science.
  
  
  
  
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  I believe in Evolution and that God created life

  by Crabby in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  anyone else also hold this view or understand it at least, or do you feel the need to argue that both can in no way coexist?.

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  Viviane

  "Your comments are unfounded, baseless and unscientific"
  rinse repeat.
  Anyone of you care to share your SAT score, IQ, Portfolio. I bet a lot of the ppl you call stupid are probably not so stupid.

  Why are you comparing facts about your posts to how mean you just were to crabby, and, strangely mixing in comments how to properly shampoo one's hair?

  You're the only person who's called anyone stupid, so it seems like you're basically saying the people you called stupid aren't as dumb as you think they are.

  Anyway, this thread has devolved into two guys trying to show how tough they are in their own mind. I've better things to do that watch people act like 13 year old boys in the locker room for the first time.