Posts by Viviane

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What is the purpose of life?

by slimboyfat in

while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.

because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".

i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.

Viviane

But you know is very easy to predict a tsunami and that region is very familiar with this natural problem.
Why there was no warning about that tsunami?

If only there were some tool that would help find answers to questions...

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/WAD501A.html

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What is the purpose of life?

by slimboyfat in

while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.

because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".

i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.

Viviane

Beautiful, the positivist tells me I'm dishonest again when she evidently thinks nothing of God and because of that feels in the right to call others crazy.

Well, if you don't want to be told you're being dishonest, don't be dishonest. It's really not that hard.

Viviane you are definitely a positivist because you clearly don't have the ability to think without that preconceived science philosophy.

If you don't want to be called nutters, don't say nutter things like this. Oh, and also, see the note on "dishonest". It also applies here.

That makes sense because despite disagreeing with those who believe in the Lord such as myself, you can't even respect our beliefs even though you think it's wrong.

If you want your beliefs respected, have respectable beliefs. I'm not talking about believing in god.

What's worse is that other users promote that contempt along with you. That is what's truly "nutters". But this is the internet afterall, full of rudeness, so what should I expect? May God be with us all.

Contempt? Rude? You missplelt "Thank you, Viv, for pointing out where I was being dishonest and kind of crazy. I shall fix my errors and move on,"

You're welcome.

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What is the purpose of life?

by slimboyfat in

while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.

because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".

i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.

Viviane

Behaviorism.

All your work is ahead of you, as usual. Using words you don't understand doesn't constitute an argument.

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What is the purpose of life?

by slimboyfat in

while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.

because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".

i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.

Viviane

So tell what non human animal can conceive infinity.
Maybe a snake?

Maybe. I dunno. Show me evidence that no other animal besides humans can't and I'll grant your premise.

Difficulty: Must include pre-souled homonids.

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What is the purpose of life?

by slimboyfat in

while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.

because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".

i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.

Viviane

C1/Premise A: No other animal specie can conceive infinity.
Better?

Not in the least. You're still making claims and conflating two conclusions without any reason to believe several of the claims are true.

Also, it's really, really bad logic.

So, no, it's NOT better.

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What is the purpose of life?

by slimboyfat in

while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.

because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".

i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.

Viviane

Yes, faith is more than reason alone. But faith seeks reason. But some articles of faith cannot be reasoned. For example, I have faith my soul will be saved in my particular Judgement.

OK, so you don't know what faith is. Got it.

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What is the purpose of life?

by slimboyfat in

while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.

because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".

i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.

Viviane

To believe universe itself can be understood with human reason requires faith too.

That's not how science works.

To believe universe itself can be understood with human reason requires faith too.

Speak for yourself, I don't believe that.

There's no warranty or proof of ANY kind I will be alive tomorrow but my plans and my thoughts are made upon faith that I'll be alive in next years.

That's irrelevant to the topic.

The premise of faith is that our rational minds can't be traceable to any animal and our minds can bear the concept of infinity. It's logical to conclude our rational minds came from something higher.

That's nutter vutter. That's not at all what faith is. It's certainly not logic of any kind.

Do you know what logic is?

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What is the purpose of life?

by slimboyfat in

while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.

because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".

i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.

Viviane

Viviane so anyone who disagrees with you is a nutterball? You and others love to call people crazy just because they have faith and you don't. That's a form of discrimination.

Awww.... look, a religious person being completely dishonest about what I said. Thinking you're nutters because you think people will fall for that nuttery isn't discrimination. It's just good sense.

Our rational soul...we could cure any disease and prevent any accident.

Puuuure Nuuuutttterrryyyy!

Science is a method not books. A book about optics is not about the scientific method.

Look who just revealed pure ignorance of what the book contains!

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What is the purpose of life?

by slimboyfat in

while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.

because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".

i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.

Viviane

Science as we know today was invented in a recent time by Christians.
I was referring to Catholic Church. I'm Catholic and Catholicism is ancient. And Catholics wrote the Bible.

Saying the same nuttery over and over doesn't make it true, no matter how much nuttery you write to pretend it's true.

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What is the purpose of life?

by slimboyfat in

while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.

because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".

i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.

Viviane

I can't make up my mind. Is JM more of a bible writer (THAT certainly explains a lot), a yoda/obi wan (the Force, Luke) or is he just that creepy cop from Fried Green Tomatoes threatening Idgy (Viv)? I vote for the creepy cop.

If you really unpack the nuttery that JM wrote, it's pretty clear what is going on. It's a need have a sense of importance to the world, to know something we don't, to belong, to be special and feared, to get to tell others what to do. Just look at the language he used...

"I belong to an ancient kind of knowledge"

"We wrote the Bible, Viviane"

"We created your precious science"

" But you can't get rid from the thought of what is to die"

"And we know something about you."

" You only have to accept what you already know, what you always knew. "

Seriously, this is like a creepy/comedic mashup of a 15 year old white knight "nice guy" from Facebook cross-posting on Reddit in /r/philosophy using all of the knowledge he learned on /r/Im14AndThisIsDeep and /r/TheRedPill.

It's someone trying to fly the flag of being special without having done any of the work to actually be special in some way. It's a sign of laziness, extreme insecurity and gullibility. I mean, who would fall for a group claiming to be the people that wrote the Bible, invented science, philosophy, language and to know every human's secret knowledge?

Or, maybe he's just really hoping if they accept him, then he will get to go to orgies full of beautiful women that totally really absolutely happen.