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  Where We Jews (and Religionists) Have Not Been So Forthcoming

  by David_Jay in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  because i feel some people have become confused in thinking that i am promoting religion or thinking that being jewish is some type of special gift that makes me better, i am writing to tell you that i don’t feel this way.

  think of this as your christmas gift (or chanukah or festivus or whatever).. despite the fact that i too practice a religion, i also think atheism is a purposeful and noble use of the mind.

  too often people with a religion have only bad things to say about atheism and atheists.

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  Viviane

  I am in no way surprised that you don't get it, Heartsafire.
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  Where We Jews (and Religionists) Have Not Been So Forthcoming

  by David_Jay in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  because i feel some people have become confused in thinking that i am promoting religion or thinking that being jewish is some type of special gift that makes me better, i am writing to tell you that i don’t feel this way.

  think of this as your christmas gift (or chanukah or festivus or whatever).. despite the fact that i too practice a religion, i also think atheism is a purposeful and noble use of the mind.

  too often people with a religion have only bad things to say about atheism and atheists.

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  Viviane

  Heartsafire, I find your use of slave labor to type our posts praising Pol-Pot to high quite offensive.

  And before you start on "business" and trying to troll us, don't be a pedantic "factshark" worried about "reality" and "what happened" and be "leaking blood in the water".
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  Where We Jews (and Religionists) Have Not Been So Forthcoming

  by David_Jay in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  because i feel some people have become confused in thinking that i am promoting religion or thinking that being jewish is some type of special gift that makes me better, i am writing to tell you that i don’t feel this way.

  think of this as your christmas gift (or chanukah or festivus or whatever).. despite the fact that i too practice a religion, i also think atheism is a purposeful and noble use of the mind.

  too often people with a religion have only bad things to say about atheism and atheists.

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  Viviane

  Heartsafire, I am truly disturbed by the way you went after David Jay on his anti-slavery comments. It was morally offensive.

  Oh, and don't you dare try to pretend that's not reality, don't be a pedantic "fact-shark" with your "facts" and "reality".
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  Where We Jews (and Religionists) Have Not Been So Forthcoming

  by David_Jay in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  because i feel some people have become confused in thinking that i am promoting religion or thinking that being jewish is some type of special gift that makes me better, i am writing to tell you that i don’t feel this way.

  think of this as your christmas gift (or chanukah or festivus or whatever).. despite the fact that i too practice a religion, i also think atheism is a purposeful and noble use of the mind.

  too often people with a religion have only bad things to say about atheism and atheists.

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  Viviane

  
  
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  Where We Jews (and Religionists) Have Not Been So Forthcoming

  by David_Jay in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  because i feel some people have become confused in thinking that i am promoting religion or thinking that being jewish is some type of special gift that makes me better, i am writing to tell you that i don’t feel this way.

  think of this as your christmas gift (or chanukah or festivus or whatever).. despite the fact that i too practice a religion, i also think atheism is a purposeful and noble use of the mind.

  too often people with a religion have only bad things to say about atheism and atheists.

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  Viviane

  Stop with the backhanded insults blabbering on about people with a chip on their shoulder.

  You wrote factually incorrect things and resorted to insults when that was shown. Don't be such a pedantic child.
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  Many of the atheists are doing better than religionists!

  by anointed1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i got up today to listen to the shocking news that russia’s ambassador to turkey was assassinated at an ankara art exhibit, and assassin was acting in the name of god.. it seems things have evolved to the other extreme that atheists are doing the work of religionists and vice versa.

  while religionists take delight in killing fellow humans in the name of god, there were many atheists who followed very elevated morality.

  the french existentialists and writers jean-paul sartre and albert camus were some of them.

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  Viviane

  But hey, Viviane is in the process of kicking your ass, so I will sit back and enjoy. I'm likely to remember this one. Please continue.

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  I wasn't sure whether the obliviousness to reality, poor understanding of history or grammar was worse.
  
  
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  Many of the atheists are doing better than religionists!

  by anointed1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i got up today to listen to the shocking news that russia’s ambassador to turkey was assassinated at an ankara art exhibit, and assassin was acting in the name of god.. it seems things have evolved to the other extreme that atheists are doing the work of religionists and vice versa.

  while religionists take delight in killing fellow humans in the name of god, there were many atheists who followed very elevated morality.

  the french existentialists and writers jean-paul sartre and albert camus were some of them.

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  Viviane

  Yeah. That's what people usually say when they just can't come back with a better one. Game over now.

  I didn't need a "better" anything. I had observational reality, facts, evidence and your own words to support me. The "game" never started, you lost before it began when you put ink to paper.
  
  
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  Many of the atheists are doing better than religionists!

  by anointed1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i got up today to listen to the shocking news that russia’s ambassador to turkey was assassinated at an ankara art exhibit, and assassin was acting in the name of god.. it seems things have evolved to the other extreme that atheists are doing the work of religionists and vice versa.

  while religionists take delight in killing fellow humans in the name of god, there were many atheists who followed very elevated morality.

  the french existentialists and writers jean-paul sartre and albert camus were some of them.

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  Viviane

  Sorry, I tried to accept what you wrote but I couldn't my head as far up my ass as you got yours. Probably need to have parents who are siblings like you in order to do that.

  Insults are the last refuge of the mentally incompetent and violently impotent. Thanks for playing.
  
  
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  Many of the atheists are doing better than religionists!

  by anointed1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i got up today to listen to the shocking news that russia’s ambassador to turkey was assassinated at an ankara art exhibit, and assassin was acting in the name of god.. it seems things have evolved to the other extreme that atheists are doing the work of religionists and vice versa.

  while religionists take delight in killing fellow humans in the name of god, there were many atheists who followed very elevated morality.

  the french existentialists and writers jean-paul sartre and albert camus were some of them.

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  Viviane

  I think the problem is that you might not want to admit that you didn't read my comments correctly

  Let's see, shall we?

  You wrote "Atheists have just as bloody and monstrous a record of violating human rights and slaughtering innocents in the name of their views as people of religion do."

  Factually incorrect. Please show me which part I read incorrectly.

  You wrote "Whether it is North Korea where religion has been totally outlawed..."

  Factually incorrect. Please show me which part I read incorrectly.

  You wrote "the People's Republic of China where freedom of religion is guaranteed as long as you freely practice according to that government's strict guidelines (or else face persecution, imprisonment, and sometimes forced conversion to the religion of China's choice):"

  Factually incorrect. Please show me which part I read incorrectly.

  You wrote "the inhuman treatment of the various communist regimes that ruled under atheism with a iron but very blood fist, people with no religion are just as capable of decapitating, gutting, and denying what they do to humans as people who claim to believe in God can."

  Show me where any of that was done in the name of atheism and not, as I said, in an attempt to elevate the state.

  You obviously have not done your homework about me or read my other comments. Sorry that you got the wrong idea.

  I got the idea that you wrote factually incorrect things from the factually incorrect things you wrote (see above for examples), it didn't require any homework.
  
  
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  Many of the atheists are doing better than religionists!

  by anointed1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i got up today to listen to the shocking news that russia’s ambassador to turkey was assassinated at an ankara art exhibit, and assassin was acting in the name of god.. it seems things have evolved to the other extreme that atheists are doing the work of religionists and vice versa.

  while religionists take delight in killing fellow humans in the name of god, there were many atheists who followed very elevated morality.

  the french existentialists and writers jean-paul sartre and albert camus were some of them.

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  Viviane

  I think you read my words with just a surface reading, because as a Jew I support atheism.

  No, I wasn't questioning whether you support it. I was simply pointing out that you are factually incorrect in your comments.
  

  The point I was making is that neither a claim to atheism or religion prevents violence done in their names.

  And my point was is that you presented factually incorrect evidence for your claim. Please don't let a poor understanding of history and facts cause you to make a mistake.