So, Tammy, if it as it MUST be, then your God is neither omnipotent or omnisceint, not God.
Viviane
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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Should Creationism Ever Be Taught In Schools?
by nicolaou inthis is taken from the bbc's sunday morning show 'the big questions'.
i was going to pick out a few highlights but really, you need to watch the whole thing - it's only 23 minutes.
seriously, i could feel the bile and frustration rising in my gullet .
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Viviane
Why are they not equivalent?
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Should Creationism Ever Be Taught In Schools?
by nicolaou inthis is taken from the bbc's sunday morning show 'the big questions'.
i was going to pick out a few highlights but really, you need to watch the whole thing - it's only 23 minutes.
seriously, i could feel the bile and frustration rising in my gullet .
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Viviane
Why can't creationism be equated to a flat earth?
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Should Creationism Ever Be Taught In Schools?
by nicolaou inthis is taken from the bbc's sunday morning show 'the big questions'.
i was going to pick out a few highlights but really, you need to watch the whole thing - it's only 23 minutes.
seriously, i could feel the bile and frustration rising in my gullet .
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Viviane
Only as an example of being an ostritch.
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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Viviane
He doesn't need to know those things, Tammy. If God really is omniscient and omnipotent and love, then he should know how, be able to do it and do it out of love.
If he doesn't know how, can't or just doesn't want to, you're left with a two legged stool that falls over.
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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Viviane
Adamah, for one who loves the accuse others of logical fallacies with giant cut-n-paste sessions (and do so falsely, sometimes), you just jumped to Ludicrous Speed with your hyperbole accusing Cofty of thinking he has single handedly killed Christianity. Should I cut-n-paste your own text about the fallacy of the excluded middle, a strawman or appeal to emotion with your loaded language?
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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Viviane
We can talk about it, but I don't know why. You clearly are using your personal revelation when this is about the God as described in the Bible. You say it's the same, and that's fine, but it's clearly a very different interpretation that has so little resemblance to the Bible that's it's is practially a different religion.
With regard to archeology and other science, ALL we have is the evidence at hand. I know you get personal revelation, but that doesn't really do much for the rest of us. How long ago was the spiritual fall you are referring to? More than 200 thousand years? I just ask because that's how long modern humans have been around.
It CAN'T rebut any of the point since it's practially a diferent religion built around personal revelation and it's not using the same source material the question is built on.
It's blaming the victims of the tsunami. Mankinds fall from grace is the problem, man caused their own problems, blaming the victim.
If you're going to use different source material, then there really no way to have a conversation since we aren't starting from the same place. I'm not being critical of your personal revelation, I'm just not particualy interested in it and it doesn't have anything to do with the original question.
Sleep tight!
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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Viviane
I'm not offended by your use of the word ignorance, it just means that now knowing something.
Tec, I still have no idea what you are talking about, this thread is about the God of the Bible, what you are talking about is completely different. It doesn't move anything anywhere as the creatures you talk about being Adam and Eve aren't people, they are spirits that didn't live on Earth (I think?). I have to be honest, I am not interest in your personal religious because they aren't really talking about the topic.
Plus, we know from archeology and other science that humans similar to us have existed for over almost 200 thousand years and there was no Adam and Eve, no original first pair that all the rest came from.
I'm not tell you it's crazy or anything, it makes as much sense as the Bible, I guess, but it just doesn't seem like it's related to the question since it's changing the God the question is about. But, even if it was, it's a variation on blaming the victim.
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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Viviane
Can we get back on topic now?
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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Viviane
I don't understand how that article rebuts anything, tec. It just seems that the argument is still "god is impotent", there there something he can't do, make a planet that doesn't kill the people he created. Saying things like "There's no design flaw" means God knew this type of stuff would kill millions of people.
I don't know what you're talking about with spirit creatures and Adam and Eve.