yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
So, you're making a "no true scotsman" argument that real atheists wouldn't have a debate, Pelican? How did you arrive at that conclusion?
Does it make sense to decide BEFORE you have sufficient information on which to base a decision, or is it better to await information?
YES or NO?
It makes sense to decide when you have exhausted all reasonable efforts to get as much reliable information as possible.
yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
Flamegrilled, if you have a point to make, then make it. What you were saying previously didn't make sense and it still doesn't with an analogy.
yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
Cofty, would you say that flamegrilled's idea of there being and unknown ungraspable unknown is a mashup of "it's a mystery" and "just have faith"? I ask because, as I think about it, he is saying it's a mystery, but one we could never understand even if we had the information, so just have faith.
yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
The analogies were only there to help people who are unable to grasp simple logical statements.
Underhandedly calling people stupid isn't fixing your broken analogies.
there's an interesting medicolegal issue arising out of tx, a pregnant women who suffered a pulmonary embolism in november and died (when she was 14 weeks pregnant).. however, the body has been kept on life-support all this time (against her and her husband's wishes), due to an ambiguous tx state law (tex hs.
code ann.
166.049) which actually blocks the ability of the patient and family to decide:.
yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
You haven't said why the train de-railed or clarified how you can have an improperly yet properly maintained rail line. There's no way to say it's a good analogy without knowing these things.
yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
I'm sure you would like to know a lot of things, how to properly construct an analogy, for instance.
In any event, your analogies keep being broken because you are trying to create a specific scenario to make a very specific point and apply that to a different scenario with different circumstances. It just doesn't work.
yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
You haven't said why the train de-railed. You can't say they were properly maintain and broken. That's like saying a married bachelor. If you are claiming that they were maintained to the standards set by the transit authorities and that wasn't good enough, then he did his job properly but the standards were lacking, so it's still not a valid analogy.
yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
Kate, in your analogy you said he DID maintain the train lines properly and then said he should have done better. Is doing "proper" maintenance defined as "not well enough"?
yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
No, it doesn't, Flame, but your analogy is broken because in the case of God, we don't have a large part of the picture to evaluate, in your examples we do.
