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What is BELIEF ?
by EdenOne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
stemming from the 'absentheism' thread, an old question came to my mind.

what exactly is "belief"?.

is it the same to ask: "do you believe in god?
Viviane

Remember that I'm playing the devil's advocate here. To me, Spanx's believer, there's abundant evidence. Now, I ask of you, atheist, how can you prove me that Spanx, whom you deny to exist, doesn't exist. How can you know for sure? Or do you not believe because you don't have sufficient evidence?
Huh? That's not at all what you were asking in your OP. You've totally changed your question, I suspect because your entire argument has fallen apart.
If you want to get into specifics, then 1)the people making the assertion have to provide the evidence. If they are ignorant of that, well, that's their problem and 2) why would I try to prove a negative to you? Do you realize how illogical that is? and 3) I don't believe anything without a reason to. Neither you nor any other theists has every provided any evidence or other reason to believe in <deity of choice>.
At this point, I'm not sure you even know what you are trying to argue.
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What is BELIEF ?
by EdenOne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
stemming from the 'absentheism' thread, an old question came to my mind.

what exactly is "belief"?.

is it the same to ask: "do you believe in god?
Viviane

But surely, the book must be of divine origin, because Spanx made sure that his word was preserved to our time.
OK, so you don't actually know anything except there is an old book.
You've failed to prove lack of evidence equals lack of knowledge. Your entire argument is falling apart.
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Gave blood today for the first time!
by Viviane in
1. watchtower
2. medical
red cross had a blood drive near me, i decided to go give blood.

i hydrated well, ate some red meat for the iron last night and at lunch, we and gave a pint of blood.

i felt mildly embarrassed, i had no idea what my blood type was.
Viviane

It was a joke. Certain people in the US blame everything on Obama.
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Gave blood today for the first time!
by Viviane in
1. watchtower
2. medical
red cross had a blood drive near me, i decided to go give blood.

i hydrated well, ate some red meat for the iron last night and at lunch, we and gave a pint of blood.

i felt mildly embarrassed, i had no idea what my blood type was.
Viviane

As a precautionary measure to reduce the risk of transmitting vCJD, the human form of BSE, (mad cow disease!) people who have received a blood transfusion since 1980 are not currently able todonate blood.
Thanks, Obama!
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What is BELIEF ?
by EdenOne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
stemming from the 'absentheism' thread, an old question came to my mind.

what exactly is "belief"?.

is it the same to ask: "do you believe in god?
Viviane

You are clearly a woman with many layers and dimensions.
Normal is boring.
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What is BELIEF ?
by EdenOne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
stemming from the 'absentheism' thread, an old question came to my mind.

what exactly is "belief"?.

is it the same to ask: "do you believe in god?
Viviane

The only "evidence" about Spanx The Almighty is in his Holy Book; his followers point to the creation as evidence. Some claim they get direct messages from Spanx, they claim to be his prophets.
So, you completely misunderstand. Not "what evidence exists" but, given that there is none, what can you tell me about Spanx so that it would be possible to get any?
For instance, if people are getting messages, they have to be delivered somehow, so we should be able to detect that, MRI, changes in the brain, the energy used to deliver it, etc.
If Spanx is all powerful, we should be able to detect uses of that power in terms of energy discharge, etc.
If, on the other hand, you are telling me that Spanx is completely undetectable, then first that raises the question of "how did the holy books get transcribed since, by definition they couldn't know anything about him" and secondly, if there is something that is, by definition, unknowable, then how could there be knowledge we are lacking?
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What is BELIEF ?
by EdenOne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
stemming from the 'absentheism' thread, an old question came to my mind.

what exactly is "belief"?.

is it the same to ask: "do you believe in god?
Viviane

I'm seeing you have a wild side!
Why only one side?
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What is BELIEF ?
by EdenOne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
stemming from the 'absentheism' thread, an old question came to my mind.

what exactly is "belief"?.

is it the same to ask: "do you believe in god?
Viviane

Damn, no wonder last night went all outta' control!
It reminded me of "Mr. Toad's Wild Ride"...
... in that if you lick a horny toad, you might see some weird sh*t.
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What is BELIEF ?
by EdenOne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
stemming from the 'absentheism' thread, an old question came to my mind.

what exactly is "belief"?.

is it the same to ask: "do you believe in god?
Viviane

Now THIS is the most interesting thing posted on this thread in the last 8 pages!!!
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What is BELIEF ?
by EdenOne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
stemming from the 'absentheism' thread, an old question came to my mind.

what exactly is "belief"?.

is it the same to ask: "do you believe in god?
Viviane

Viviane, I really don't understand what you're trying to do here. Are you trying to debunk any god I may throw at you? Don't even go there, I will agree with you. What's your point?
You said lack of evidence leads to lack of knowledge, specifically under the auspices of a discussion around atheism and your attempts to claim it is a belief.
So, using your god, is there any way to gather evidence about it? I need you to define it so I can tell if there is anyway possible to gather evidence or determine if it is possible to gather evidence and whether or not it is even possible to know anything about such a creature.