Posts by Viviane

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Does Anyone Still Believe in God?

by LaurenM in

do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?

even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.

the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.

Viviane

I don't think there is any proof that humans can comprehend or have the words to describe.

The any god you could potentially be describing is worthless and pointless.

Human science is worthless here.

Human science has made the world a far better place. You suggests a pointless god that is impotent to even show it exists. Science, in your scenario, is the useful thing. You've it backwards.

My point was that if you look at sociology and some of the biology there are too many coincidences to just write off something we don't understand.

You've yet to show me there is a god we don't understand. You're attempting to use science to prove science is worthless. That's not how it works.

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Does Anyone Still Believe in God?

by LaurenM in

do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?

even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.

the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.

Viviane

What if ALL Gods are the same one - perceived in many ways according to the individuals beliefs and filters?

First show me any proof that any god exists, then we can discuss all gods.

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Does Anyone Still Believe in God?

by LaurenM in

do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?

even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.

the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.

Viviane

you see what can be gleaned by looking in the right places, and the more we look, the more we discover how it all works, and was made to work.

Exactly.

I think an important question to ask is, "How is the existence of an auto catalyst evidence of divine guidance and not just evidence of the existence of an auto catalyst being a part of nature?

That's what keeps not getting answered, cappytan. You've precisely identified the issue, assuming the underlying statements about homichirality were correct (they aren't).

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Does Anyone Still Believe in God?

by LaurenM in

do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?

even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.

the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.

Viviane

not a fact, popular opinion. The moon revolves around the barycenter, so does the earth.

Or, the moon orbits the earth and moon's common barycenter, which is inside the earth (about 3/4 of the radius from the core to the crust), so it is 100% correct to say the moon orbits the earth. Of course, given that the moon does not have a circular orbit, it's elliptical with with an apsidal precession and some eccentricity.

The moon revolves, or more properly, rotates, upon it's own axis once every 27.3-ish days, also called a sidereal month.

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Has NASA discoverd flowing water on Mars?

by The Rebel in

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nasa is holding a press conference today entiltled " mars mystery solved".

speculation is they will announce the discovery of flowing water on mars?.

the significance of this is that it raises the possibility of possible past life or future existence on the planet.. the rebel..

Viviane

Statistically, you couldn't be more wrong Kate.

That's a theme with Kate.

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Does Anyone Still Believe in God?

by LaurenM in

do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?

even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.

the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.

Viviane

Just as I thought Viv, you cannot correct my definition.

Of course I can. I don't say anything unless I can back it up. I am giving you the opportunity to do it yourself thought. This is like doing homework with my kids, sheesh. "Thinking" is definitely not what you are doing. You're constructing an argument based on emotion and magic, which is not an argument.

I'm not doing your work for you.

I have proved I know about chemistry and I have proved that no one can correct me

Indeed you have. Specifically that you don't know what you are talking about. And that you you don't know what proof is. Or homochirality. Or what a strawman argument is. Or how science works. Or chemistry. Or constructing an argument.

Thanks Viv for the comments

Brave Sir Robin!

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Does Anyone Still Believe in God?

by LaurenM in

do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?

even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.

the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.

Viviane

I am happy to be corrected by someone who has correct answers

Then I must make you very happy.

Present something real from reputable source Until then, you've don't nothing but write a lot and present nonsense. You've done no chemistry, conducted no research and simply repeated the claims of psueduscience and creationists.

You're wasting everyone's time and just flailing about that your correct.

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Does Anyone Still Believe in God?

by LaurenM in

do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?

even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.

the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.

Viviane

The medical definition is also the chemical definition. You haven't offered a better definition. All readers of your posts will know you are not able to correct me as I am correct.

I don't have to offer anything better, I'm not the one making a claim. Yet another proof point that you're fundamentally unaware of how science works....

Tell you what, if you think you are correct, why don't you go to somewhere and show us a consensus on the definition of homochirality from reputable chemists, universities and scholarly works. I've got several at the ready, but I am disinclined to do your work for you.

With respect to the bogus website, you having never been there in no way means you aren't using their bogus argument. Also, anyone that respects knowledge, evidence, facts and reality has nothing to offer those such as yourself that reject reality in favor of magical thinking.

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Does Anyone Still Believe in God?

by LaurenM in

do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?

even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.

the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.

Viviane

The Bible contains information that took science many more centuries to discover.

Such as?

The creation itself testifies to us having been created.

I really wish fundies would learn what a tautology is.

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Does Anyone Still Believe in God?

by LaurenM in

do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?

even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.

the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.

Viviane

Nobody can or can't prove the existence of God, but we a free to believe as we wish without fear of being shunned by society, sadly some are shunned for their views by JWs.

As soon as you are able to define what god you are talking about, we can move that discussion forward.

Also, you are confusing "shunning" with "debating ideas". No one is shunning anyone.