Posts by Viviane

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I believe in Evolution and that God created life

by Crabby in

anyone else also hold this view or understand it at least, or do you feel the need to argue that both can in no way coexist?.

Viviane

Viviane do you believe that the humanity will be taking life to other planets at some point? I do, and once this happens God is proven as he will need the ability to travel off the Earth and to bring life elsewhere. This is possible now, and it was not 2000 years ago. God is thus in this view closer than you think.

Nonsensical babbling (AKA, theology).

Now you clearly believe in spontaneous generation as Darwin put it.

You clearly believe you know what I believe. You couldn't be more wrong if you tried.

Did it ever occur to you that if you succeeded that you would be God?

ON YOUR KNEES, MORTAL. FEAR YOUR TRUE GOD. OBEY. I REQUIRE..... A SHRUBBERY. THEN, ANOTHER SHRUBBERY. WHEN YOU HAVE FOUND THAT SHRUBBERY, PLACE IT BESIDE THE OTHER SHRUBBERY, ONLY SLIGHTLY HIGHER SO YOU GET A NICE TWO LEVEL EFFECT WITH A NICE PATH RUNNING DOWN THE MIDDLE.

THIS IS THE COMMAND OF THY LORD HIGH GOD.

ALSO A SNACK. I PREFER HERRING.

Well he made this up, his letter began, what if. So Darwin himself did not believe his nonsense, and since his time his theories have fallen apart.

Seriously, you couldn't make less sense and be more wrong if you tried. But kudos to you on managing to do both at once.

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Why do so many JW's argue that they do not believe what they clearly do?

by Crabby in

i ask a question recently, which was why do jw's not salute the flag, and i ask what page of the bible directs this practice.. all i got back was that i do not know what i am talking about and that they are allowed to do this, when i dropped 40000 google links proving that they do not salute the flag they just deleted it as though my proof could not exist.

seriously this is common knowledge, my neighbor just put up a flag to keep the guy across the street away.

so are there jw's who have no clue what they believe, or should believe?

Viviane

The same question is true of Christians in general.

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I believe in Evolution and that God created life

by Crabby in

anyone else also hold this view or understand it at least, or do you feel the need to argue that both can in no way coexist?.

Viviane

God creating life.

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I believe in Evolution and that God created life

by Crabby in

anyone else also hold this view or understand it at least, or do you feel the need to argue that both can in no way coexist?.

Viviane

Why would I believe it when there is zero evidence for it? It makes as much sense to believe a giant spider made of miniature beer steins that are larger on the inside and are inexplicably filled with raisins and dreidels spun the first cell out of web and left it to evolve.

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I conclude evolution is guided

by KateWild in

your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

Viviane

This thread really needs to go to sleep......

“In that case,” said Napoleon, “let us wait twenty minutes; when the enemy is making a false movement we must take good care not to interrupt him.”

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I conclude evolution is guided

by KateWild in

your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

Viviane

but as to bearing no resemblance to descriptions by people who believe in God many scientists and biochemists (who don't believe in God) would disagree with you. Illya Prigogine for example states
"It is hard to avoid the impression that the distinction between what exists in time, what is irreversible, and, on the other hand, what is outside of time, what is eternal, is at the origin of human symbolic activity" p. 312. Order out of Chaos (Prigogine, Stengers 1984)

What, specifically, in that paper, says anything about irreversability, being outside of time or something being eternal? (Hint: Nothing. Viv's Law strikes again.)

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I conclude evolution is guided

by KateWild in

your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

Viviane

re some of the logics of Belief in God via God's eye view external to time and views internal to time often described by those who believe in God, and in ancient myths etc

Viv's Law at work. That paper has nothing to do with belief in god and bears no resemblance to descriptions by people who believe in God and ancient myths.

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Complaining over post dislikes / downvotes

by Simon in

let's be clear: people have the right to like or dislike what they want - that is why the option is there.

as long as they are not doing it in a malicious way to retaliate or game the system, there is no policing the votes.

if you get a down-vote, live with it.

Viviane

Agree 100%, clicked Dislike on general principles :)

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I conclude evolution is guided

by KateWild in

your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

Viviane

For the record I've worked on in whole or part on apps you literally use on your phone/computer. Rather than insult me perhaps you can just say thanks sheesh. Enough with the barbs.

Are you like 5 years old or something?

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I conclude evolution is guided

by KateWild in

your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

Viviane

Let's not put words in my mouth nor act as though I'm uninformed I've pretty much had it with that noise, I'll simply ignore you.

Let's not. You put the uninformed words in your mouth. No need to get snippy with others because it became plainly obvious to all.

So I categorically disagree with your statement. regarding LUCA.

Case in point. Viv's Law strikes again.

Now explain to me the charge what caused the event. Happenstance, God, a Leprechaun, a Martian how'd it happen?
If you can't explain that process you cannot say with anything definitive as to that early bacteria like RNA started chaining and ultimate became DNA.

Viv's Law strikes again. You confusing evolution with abiogensis.

If the "origin" were not important why the hell is everyone trying to solve it???

No one said it wasn't. For someone who complains about being misunderstood, you have repeatedly attempted to make false claims about others.

The only question is ... why?

doesn't matter my point is if you can't define that origin you cannot form a concrete opinion, an opinion based on what you know sure, but not an absolute one no one can.

Huh? You're logic breaks down to "if you don't know something, you can't form an opinion on it". Well.... duh?