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What is spirit, exactly?

by Viviane in

i've always wondered that.

recently i asked that question on another thread and didn't really get ananswer.

cofty made an excellent point that we often hear what it isn't, but that really isn't useful.. so, what is it?

Hi viv;...sorry if I did not make my point clear,but when I refer to breathing I dont mean that the act of breathing is the spirit but is used in terms of taking breath (air oxygen)which is the bodies way of staying alive by using the force of the air in our lungs.

Similarly in Chinese spirit ' qi 'or ' chi ' is literally breath , air, gas.

I did not intend it as contradictory as you have seen it.

So to summarize, spirit is a word used in language with multiple meanings . Sometimes used to mean supernatural beings or influence, I disagree with that.

Sometimes as a descriptive to denote human traits attitudes etc, as you have alluded to, I understand that definition.

Sometimes used to mean in human context the physical air we breath allowing us the force of breathing to keep us alive, I would concur with that although until you asked the initial question its not a description of spirit that i had thought about, and now i will forget about it.

Best wishes

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What is spirit, exactly?

by Viviane in

i've always wondered that.

recently i asked that question on another thread and didn't really get ananswer.

cofty made an excellent point that we often hear what it isn't, but that really isn't useful.. so, what is it?

galaxie

Any opinions on "spirit;...force giving life to a body" as per dictionary.

I don't see it as supernatural.

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What is spirit, exactly?

by Viviane in

i've always wondered that.

recently i asked that question on another thread and didn't really get ananswer.

cofty made an excellent point that we often hear what it isn't, but that really isn't useful.. so, what is it?

galaxie

Force of life only in physical terms of pressure exerted by filling with oxygen nothing medieval or supernatural intended. I am willing to concede its a rather loose term brought about by the dictionary description.

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What is spirit, exactly?

by Viviane in

i've always wondered that.

recently i asked that question on another thread and didn't really get ananswer.

cofty made an excellent point that we often hear what it isn't, but that really isn't useful.. so, what is it?

galaxie

Not exactly viv,..Breathing is only facilitated by force of life oxygen no force no breathing.

it is all physical spirit oxygen force of life

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What is spirit, exactly?

by Viviane in

i've always wondered that.

recently i asked that question on another thread and didn't really get ananswer.

cofty made an excellent point that we often hear what it isn't, but that really isn't useful.. so, what is it?

galaxie

Not exactly viv,..Breathing is only facilitated by force of life oxygen no force no breathing.

it is all physical spirit oxygen force of life

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What is spirit, exactly?

by Viviane in

i've always wondered that.

recently i asked that question on another thread and didn't really get ananswer.

cofty made an excellent point that we often hear what it isn't, but that really isn't useful.. so, what is it?

galaxie

If the baby is born but fails to breath it dies no chance to breath the spirit or force of life

Ifit's lungs are underdeveloped they can't handle spirit or force of life effectively assistance would therefore be required for the baby to benefit from the force of life spirit oxygen to allow it a chance of survival.

WhatI meant by independent is independent of the mother who provided its oxygen in the womb.

As for the dictionary definition I suppose we would have to know what the composer of the description meant.

I prefer to see it as a physical force as opposed to supernatural.

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What is spirit, exactly?

by Viviane in

i've always wondered that.

recently i asked that question on another thread and didn't really get ananswer.

cofty made an excellent point that we often hear what it isn't, but that really isn't useful.. so, what is it?

galaxie

Hi viv...I would say if a baby dies in the womb it has not benefited from the physical force of life it needs fir independent existence(from the mother) therefore no physical spirit in its lungs and no chance of developing the traits which would give rise to the content of your reply to my question thanks.

May I pose another...the first description of the word spirit in my Collins dictionary is FORCE of life would you

have an opinion on what it is referring to as force or if you think there is such a force related to spirit?2

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What is spirit, exactly?

by Viviane in

i've always wondered that.

recently i asked that question on another thread and didn't really get ananswer.

cofty made an excellent point that we often hear what it isn't, but that really isn't useful.. so, what is it?

galaxie

Sorry Viv I must have meant to ask but obviously didn't.

It was just to ask if you had an opinion on what can be called human spirit if you think there is such a thing and if so what you would describe it as?

Of course the baby has developed because of all the things you mention but baby will have no further existence unless it takes a breath.That is key to its future life and development of its descriptive spirit as I have outlined previously.

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What is spirit, exactly?

by Viviane in

i've always wondered that.

recently i asked that question on another thread and didn't really get ananswer.

cofty made an excellent point that we often hear what it isn't, but that really isn't useful.. so, what is it?

galaxie

Viv,....I am not saying it's oxygen alone. The force is the air we breathe composite,but of course mostly oxygen.

You are of course correct to say we owe much more to our existence, and as you say without photosynthesis no oxygen. But you digress. The context is HUMAN spirit. Photosynthesis provided us with the force we humans cannot exist without.

The unborn child relies on the oxygen from its mother as did she and so on back. When the umbilical chord is cut how does the now independent child survive,? To what force does it owe its continuation of life? The force of air in its lungs. That is the spirit of life which then in turn is fundamental to our continuing our development until finally our last breath goes out and as some would say his/her spirit is finally gone, in other words no more. breath no more spirit for that individual.

I posed a question to you in a previous post have you any opinion?

Best wishes

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What is spirit, exactly?

by Viviane in

i've always wondered that.

recently i asked that question on another thread and didn't really get ananswer.

cofty made an excellent point that we often hear what it isn't, but that really isn't useful.. so, what is it?

galaxie

Hi viv;...I.m.o..everything you do is possible because of your own HUMAN spirit inc' your contributing to this forum.

Every breath you take allows you to continue in a spirited way ie as all human beings , whatever motivates us , exites us, gives rise to our personalities, which in turn is seen by others who may have an opinion on a persons spirit. In this scenario spirit is a descriptive word which can be used in place of;..attitude as in she has a bad attitude you could say she has a bad spirit.or I'm at a low ebb, could be I'm not in very good spirit. Or he is a very spirited person meaning he is very motivated.

So in these examples most people would understand what the word spirit meant in the context of the conversation.

All possible because we breathe and stay alive.

That initial breath at birth is the spirit (noun) as 1st definition in my Collins dictionary force giving life to a body.

That force is not supernatural but is the air we breathe

Our electrical stimulus to exite our lungs at birth would not have developed had it not been for the oxygen the baby needs.

It is ONLY because of oxygen any of us can have any so called spirit (remembering before there was ever such a word descriptive or otherwise there was the air we breathe )

The force of the air once the lungs are stimuled is the spirit which allows us to operate as human beings, motivating us to do things like for example asking questions on an Internet forum, congratulations Viv you are using your own spirit (descriptive for motivation ) every time you post or reply on this topic.

In my humble opinion of course .

Best wishes.