Posts by galaxie

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New "theocratic history" book for witnesses?

by stuckinarut2 in

so i have heard a few of us talking about a newly released book to replace or add to the proclaimers book?.

is that correct?.

if so, i wonder how much they have re-written history to cover the real truths?.

galaxie

Vast amounts of B... Sh....t. Causes more stench. !!!!

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What did Jesus really mean, when he said he had made his Father's name known?

by Faithful Witness in

i am preparing for my meeting this friday with miss k. we are reviewing the bible teach book, and she is looking forward to "showing me some things about the divine name.

" i don't know what she might pull out of her hat this time... but that section of the teach book is so completely assanine, i don't even know what to say.

) what did jesus mean when he said that to his father?.

galaxie

F.W. ...You could start from the fundemental question;..How can we be certain jesus said anything which is attributed to him by people which we know almost zero about.

Jesus did not write or record anything of his own volition, the circumstances of his given ( biblical) existance is dubious at best.

You are dealing with people of faith who will use it to justify doctrine which satisfies their own inability to question belief which flies in the face of reason and evidence.

My advice is to say no thankyou I'll work things out using my own reasoning, not what your publications tell me.

Best wishes.

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JW refuses to provide wedding stationery to Gay couple

by KateWild in

i was outraged at this and had to post it.. http://jehovahswitnessreport.com/blog/jw-refuses-to-provide-wedding-stationery-to-gay-couple.

i think she is a hypocrite and i bet she sells her invites to fornicators, or does she ask them if they are having sex before marrige, before she takes their money?.

i was never like this when i was a jw, it's even more disturbing that she is going to ask her elders what to do.

galaxie

How many Windows were washed by JWs where the householders were gay! They still collected the money.

Hypocrits!!

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Everybody is doing it !

by new hope and happiness in

postmen, accountants, window cleaners, pop-songers- even you!

yes these days everybody - and anybody - seem to be leaving the jehovers witnesses.so why should you be left out?.

there was a time when you had to have performed some terrible service to the g.b?

galaxie

Nhah All 3 would be VERY interesting...Ehh!!!!

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How to find joy in the ministry, according to one elder

by ohnightdivine in

he said that having a goal is the most important, since we do not want to waste our time and become depressed when going out in the ministry.. and what else could be better than setting a goal to, say, distribute xx number of magazines during that day?!.

in this way we could feel contented and joyful in service.. .

how profound!

galaxie

Stillin ;... You just exposed my story !!! Was I conned ?!!! Lol

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SAVED FROM PLEDGING MONEY!

by The Searcher in

an elderly sister pointed to the printed out pledge forms on the literature counter and asked me what this was about, because she'd missed a couple of meetings.

i tactfully (and very quietly!

) explained that there was a new donation arrangement via pledging!

galaxie

Small steps can lead to great adventures.

Best wishes.

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Everybody is doing it !

by new hope and happiness in

postmen, accountants, window cleaners, pop-songers- even you!

yes these days everybody - and anybody - seem to be leaving the jehovers witnesses.so why should you be left out?.

there was a time when you had to have performed some terrible service to the g.b?

galaxie

Yes ...n.h a h..leaving the JWs after a bit of emotional brain trauma , I felt a sense of ME.

I continue to have zero regrets and KNOW by contrast with my family kids and grankids as opposed to my jw family members the love and happiness we have surpasses anything they have.

My kids often comment how glad they are not to ever have been brought up JWs, when they are subject to jw discrimination and judgement .

Best wishes.

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What is spirit, exactly?

by Viviane in

i've always wondered that.

recently i asked that question on another thread and didn't really get ananswer.

cofty made an excellent point that we often hear what it isn't, but that really isn't useful.. so, what is it?

galaxie

Hi ViV the complications of the root meanings which lead us to spirit are the hijacking of the literal meaning.

The words were in use before the woo woo brigade decided to supernatural it. Hence the very reason we discuss it on this forum.

That said I agree the supernatural composition of spirit. Is as a dog chasing its tail.

Best wishes

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Where does the Governing Body say "old light" comes from?

by matt2414 in

the governing body claims they've received "new light" from jehovah every time they change their doctrine.

so where did the "old light" come from that's being replaced?

if the old light is incorrect, could it have come from god?

galaxie

Hi matt;...unfortunately , as my brother the elder says,..the JWs are not a perfect organisation, in other words, so what if we got it wrong.

There is no getting through to that kind of mentality. I hope for his sake and most of my family time will tell but until then we endure the hurtful and totally unnecessary consequences.

Best wishes .

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What is spirit, exactly?

by Viviane in

i've always wondered that.

recently i asked that question on another thread and didn't really get ananswer.

cofty made an excellent point that we often hear what it isn't, but that really isn't useful.. so, what is it?

galaxie

Etymologically, the English word spirit has its roots in ancient language the people who spoke these words were not using them metaphorically , but as the meaning intended literally.

Spirit (from latin spiritus/spirare literally breath, of the wind, breathe or blow)was not used when spoken as metaphorical but as the understood definitions.

Similarly the words : pneuma(greek) as in pneumatic, pneumonia .Lil (sumarian)air, breath would be translated as spirit.

Ruakh( aramaic/ hebrew )lliterally breath, air that is breathed also wind, force of wind/air .

Nephesh/neshamah( hebrew) literally breath.

The supernatural meanings of spirit are not the etymological roots, these later interpretations (understandable in less enlightened times)were a hijacking of the literal meanings to suit supernatural belief systems. Eg..the writer (whoever )of genesis chooses to describe god giving adam air( ruakh) in his nostrils to give him life. God the giver is supernatural , adam the receiver is myth the air however (ruakh) is literal chosen (hijacked) later to be seen also as ' supernatural '.as alluded to by the opinion of the dutch site Positief-atheism,...that "the original words acquired mystical status by believers".

Also in Edward R Bevans book 'symbolism and belief' that the view stated by Siebeck and also Cremer in his lexicon of biblical greek, states that the word pneuma(spirit in English)did not get a spiritual(supernatural) connotation till it was adopted by jews to translate the Aramaic/hebrew ruakh.

The fact that ancients believed in supernatural superstition in whatever form as mentioned previously in the topic ie Pythia greek mythology, Etemuu ghost stories , Anaximenes ancient philosopher who saw the correlation of spirit and air , but chose to believe it had ' devine attributes, does not detract from the root meaning of spirit and corresponding words in other languages and etymology of those being that it was literally : air we breathe, wind , force of wind, breath, blow also ' of the wind '.

These words therefore not always metaphorical (although certainly can be used as such) but used and spoken by ancients in their literal meaning/context.

Therefore I would conclude that spirit is exactly a word which can be defined as supernatural form(total non...sense imo)

Spirit is also exactly a word which is descriptive of human traits, behavior, attitudes etc, but can also be applied to animals eg a 'spirited horse' meaning excited, agitated.

Spirit is exactly a word derived etymologicaly from root and very ancient origins to be no more than the air we breath literally.

Best wishes