if the witnesses have the truth and have been going to meetings for many years and every week they learn how to be effective in the ministry and learn about the bible on sundays and every week have a family worship night, why are they afraid to talk to anyone who doesn't agree with them or question their beliefs?
if they have the truth then nothing can refute it.
the truth is the truth.
Sadly their ' truth ' is their imposed organisational influenced truth which even if it is driven by an impossible delusive dream allows them the comfort that they are part of the mother hive where the queen bee calls the shots.
ANY action which can obliterate the ' queen bee ' should be encouraged.
i think we've all noticed a ton of newbe's these past months.
one part of escaping or thinking about escaping the jw's is coming to terms with what you believe now and/or what direction you are leaning towards.. here is a site that has a quick quiz that may be of some worth or just for fun.
i took it when i first signed on here and the results surprised me because it was pretty accurate.. you don't have to sign up for anything and when you finish you will get a percentage answer on 20 major belief systems.
"a court in southern russia has denounced a local organization of jehovah's witnesses as "extremist" and ordered it disbanded, the interfax news agency reported wednesday, in the latest in a long line of such rulings issued to the religious group in russia.. the group's building and surrounding land will be confiscated by the local government in the town of abinsk, krasnodar region, the court ruled.the group had been distributing publications titled "humanity in search of god" and "what does the bible really teach?
" that were included in the federal list of extremist materials and are banned for distribution in the country, the news report said.
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/mobile/news/article/russian-court-denounces-jehovah-s-witnesses-as-extremist/517026.html.
Anyone or group or organisation who preaches that there are.. supernatural beings judging us and require obeisance. ..that there is a devil influencing our human affairs...that human beings after death can be transported to another realm ( of unknown origin )...that human beings can live forever (as a reward for adhering to interpreted myth by some guys from New York under the guise of being chosen by way of an ancient parable )... that some ancient bloke brought someone back from death, changed water into wine , fed thousands of people using a few loaves and fish ,a snake was able to speak, stopped the flow of a major river and and so on and so forth.....is not extreme but extremely sensible ....NOT !!!!!!
about time..... "teachers, councillors and social workers in england and wales who fail to protect children could face up to five years in jail under new proposals.. the new measures, being unveiled by the prime minister, would see the crime of "wilful neglect" extended to cover children's social care and education.. there would also be unlimited fines for individuals and organisations shown to have let children down.".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31691061.
when they so cleverly predicted to us all that the world would turn against them, something that has not happened despite over a 100 years of taunting power and opposing religious figures, now it is likely to begin, they failed to mention that it would be due to rampant paedophilia in 'gods earthly organisation'.what a wholesome enviroment to grow up in and raise a child.. we have heard it said many times here that the jw's won't last as they are so entrenched in trends, so opposite to modern human progress, culture and society, they stand out as more extremist and inhumane by the year, mocked regularly in the media now.
The legislators in the uk must be held to account by the democratic will of the people to whom they are bound to provide justice and security.
If they do not include religious organisations in the latest proposal they will be failing in their duty of legal protection for the innocent and conviction of the guilty.....Who would disagree.
Religious or organisational rules which conflict with the democratic law of the land inc' sharia should be exposed and dealt with severely.
i am perpetually challenged by the fact that most jws are completely duped by the propaganda pumped out relentlessly by the borg.
even intelligent ones; they unwittingly grovel to the gb decisions and follow the party line.
they do this for a number of reasons..
Possibly we'll have to wait for neuroscience to come up with the evidential answer, it's all to do with our brains. There is somehow a need to rely on something out with our own workings to take the burden of what's perceived to be the unknown. Many many people succumb to their own idea of a comfort zone , and because they are so convinced will seek to convince others, and so it goes on and on. This process seems to allow for delusion to the point where very intelligent people can be so ingrained that the utterly ridiculous and craziest of notions will be believed as truth to keep them in their comfort zone.
The frustration is, that if you are fortunate enough to escape the madness trying to understand why others don't see it is utterly perplexing.
it took a few years but i finally decided to join yesterday.
my background, born-in, still go to meetings for family reasons, i am inactive however.
if you were to ask when i first woke up i would say 2010 with the overlapping generation garbage.
Welcome...yeah I had the overlapping gen' discussion with two trolley/ cart older jws , they had no biblical support for this and could only say its further enlightenment?!!
Best wishes on your journey out of the bullsh....t
i'm new here but not new to researching and questioning the jw beliefs.
i have quite a story.... one that's been haunting me for awhile... but first, i'd like to hear what people have to say about this topic question, please.. -gigi.
Put another way...if it is the ' truth ' you would have certainty as opposed to hope which is a desire or expectation that something is true ( as in a hope for the future ) what you certainly have is your life which you should live in the present, not withstanding having goals and ambitions.
Those who always live in hope of an outcome in the future are not really taking charge of the present imo.
Best wishes.
for those of you familiar with ayn rand and her ideas on morality, rationality and reason, what is your opinion of those ideas?.
i'm talking about her actual ideas, not the ideals that libertarianism has adopted and, in some cases, perverted.
do you think she's a charlatan?
for those of you familiar with ayn rand and her ideas on morality, rationality and reason, what is your opinion of those ideas?.
i'm talking about her actual ideas, not the ideals that libertarianism has adopted and, in some cases, perverted.
do you think she's a charlatan?
when i understood, jws are wrong in some vital areas [eg.
woman being viewed secondary, refusal to greet those differing with them ....], but right in other vital areas [such as their teaching that human rule is doomed, and will be replaced by gods rule], i began a diligent search for the right organization.
my search ended with brahmakumaris.
Abiather..
Are you still putting your faith in an organization? If so other human brain conjurers are leading you. If you are happy with that arrangement you must be a person who requires someone else to do your thinking for you.
