Spinks made murmurings to the commission that certain aspects of jw judicial procedure may be reviewed but in no uncertain tems outlined their belief that worldly government is in their opinion temporary and that the gb aka fds interpretation of scripure will prevail imo to the detrement of victims . Their excuse for the present judicial set up is based on their interpretation of scripture is it not ? My question, what will they change will they be forced under duress or will they put up a fight. He already cited examples of jws going to prison rather than capitulate.
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Rodney Spinks' Performance
by maksutov init seems like there has not been as much discussion here about the rc testimony on day 6 (4th august) as there has been about previous days.
i was quite surprised by rodney spinks' testimony, which was a marked contrast to the bungling and inarticulate testimony of the elders that appeared before him.
spinks seemed reasonably co-operative, and a lot more willing to concede points than anyone else has been.
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where there was a conflict between the Bible and science, the Bible would prevail, because all scripture is "inspired by God"
by freemindfade inthought i would put this in its own thread.
it another embarrassing statement from the rc (royal commission not regional convention lol).
it's not even one about abuse, its about the jw's stance on science and the bible.
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Spinks has unequivocally told the jws that in the face of scientific evidence or methods or procedures with regard to child abuse which can give help and justice to victims, if it is deemed contrary to the gb aka fds interpretation of scripture ( at this time as there is precedent that they have altered their understanding of Scripture by way of ' new light ' usually as a result of being in a tight corner ) they could still suffer harm as a result ! Oh how loving and caring of them ie protect the organisation at all cost first innocent children second. -
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Cecil the Lion deserved what he got...That's right. I said it.
by cappytan inlions are notorious murderers of beautiful zebras, antelope and other graceful exotic animals.
cecil probably contributed to the deaths of hundreds if not thousands of animals.
what happened to him was justice.. you reap what you sow.
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The lion kills to naturally sustain itself, it does not consider its prey to be exotic. The hunter on the other other hand has killed this animal as a trophy of sport. I wonder how the person who did this would feel if his life was at risk by being seen as an object of sport? -
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Governing body deceiving members on purpose?
by wwjdnwt ini was born into this religion.
i was a jw for well over 30 years.
i did much research before i had internet, i compared bibles and prayed deeply to help me to know if this was the truth.
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@.caleb..@island man...the op asks the question of deliberate deception by the governing body, as the gb consists of more than one person we would have to assume the possibility that all members use deception simultaneously which imo is highly unlikely, or certain members are persuaded or possibly coerced into agreeing that a ' new understanding ' of a previously held belief should be presented to the jws as the spiritual food from jehovah gained through them by means of the holy spirit. It is this second scenario where I believe there is deliberate deception..eg the understanding of ' the generation ' notice the gb aka fds did not change their understanding of matt.24:34 until the realisation that their then teaching ( supposedly gained by jehovahs holy spirit direction ) did not 'add up ' to subsequently then change to a different understanding involves not only wilfully or unknowingly deceiving themselves as a whole or by majority binding decision ( and would we ever know if there was dissent ) but also as a result deceives the so called domestics.
As for ideologies (bodies or ideas of a group religious or otherwise ) imo there can be no more a fundamental ideology than the whole basis of jws believing that the fds/ gb is directed by jehovahs holy spirit to provide their spiritual nourishment, the fact that they use the deception of ' new light ' to justify their beliefs is built in to the construct of their continuing existence, otherwise they would be a much reduced religion or exist at all to the present. They are imo a religion which exists entirely through deception.
Best wishes.
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Governing body deceiving members on purpose?
by wwjdnwt ini was born into this religion.
i was a jw for well over 30 years.
i did much research before i had internet, i compared bibles and prayed deeply to help me to know if this was the truth.
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@Caleb...re. Japanese imperial 'new light ' would you agree that new policy formed from known and compulsive evidence to enhance a cause is diametrically opposed to the gb's make it up as we go along because we're in a corner attitude? I see it as deception for survival at the expense of the gullible.
Best wishes.
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Governing body deceiving members on purpose?
by wwjdnwt ini was born into this religion.
i was a jw for well over 30 years.
i did much research before i had internet, i compared bibles and prayed deeply to help me to know if this was the truth.
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@ calebinFloroda:...your comparisons to imperial Japan, isis and nazism would ring truer if it were not for the governing body/fds conjuring ' new light ' which nullifies their previous ideologically held belief systems. Your comparitive examples strictly held or hold to their ideologies to the death.
Best wishes.
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Governing body deceiving members on purpose?
by wwjdnwt ini was born into this religion.
i was a jw for well over 30 years.
i did much research before i had internet, i compared bibles and prayed deeply to help me to know if this was the truth.
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When David splane (gb member ) exclaimed in his stanley theatre adress regarding : ' who are the fds ' he admits it was an 'idea' which he refers to as " we love this idea ". Where do they get this idea or notion?imo it's pulled out of their collective asses to steer their hypocritical organisation in the direction which suits their knowingly deceptive purpose of control over their directed unquestioning adherents.
Yes I think deception stares out of their eyes while inwardly knowing to question their unqualified authority must not dare to be challenged.
They are charlatans of the highest degree.
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Abusing the power of tears. Yet another sign of desperation
by StarTrekAngel inso i was seating at the meeting this past sunday.
the latest wt article to be studied speaks of "using our imagination" to think about the blessings of the kingdom.
the whole study was centered around how we can, and should, spent time visualizing ourselves in the new world, working along with our brothers.
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This emotional technique has been used by jws since inception . They are arm in arm with so called ' babylon the great ' who also incite emotion in the same way by quoting scripture which promises hope of life after death, being united with dead relatives and paradise of whatever description. I am certain my own family ( parents ) were emotionally hooked by this fanciful notion by the jws as both had lost parents when they were children. I recall vividly the emotion whilst talking about meeting loved ones after the resurrection. I dont think we'd be surprised at just how many jws cling on to this fruitcake religion because of this emotional attachment. The jws are no more than another religion of the world with their own magnetic emotional slant of hope for the future.