I’m an advent Crusader, last remnants of the Knights Templar, and an Ex-Witness. So in your perfect theory about the Sheppard, then all religions are cults. Since the Catholics have the Pope supposedly made from St Peter the first Pope? They have bishops, fathers, Jews have Rabbi’s, other religions have preachers, priests, committees, etc. With your great line of thought, Parents of children are Cults; no instruction should be given or accepted by anyone. Governments are Cults, as they have Presidents, Congressmen, and Senators. Schools are Cults; they have Board members, principals, and teachers. I guess you are Supreme Being that came to know all that you have learn by Darwinism, it just came to you. City’s Counties, police, military. It falls under this grand vision of yours I suppose. So in your supposition no one should be sheep. I love atheism. In an effort to belittle one religion you have taught the ignorance and fallacy man has inherited. When Christ past on the role of the Sheppard for knowing his time was short to the Apostles, it was to continue his message and fine work, and to preach to the masses to seek god not Christ and his glory. Without guidance, theres no understanding; perhaps that’s where the flaw is in all you peoples logic. So then is your religion any better, if it is, The Branch Davidians compound is still for sale. Will all of you be attending. I don’t know which one of you is David Koresh was born Vernon Wayne Howell in Houston, Texas in 1959 to a 15-year old single mother. He never knew his father and was raised by his grandparents.
Jim Jones, the Peoples Temple was a racially integrated church that focused on helping people in need. Jones originally established the Peoples Temple in Indianapolis, Indiana, but then moved it to Redwood Valley, California in 1966
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Billy's Comments You Won't Hear at the 01-26-2014 WT Study (Obey Jehovah's Shepherds))
by Billy the Ex-Bethelite infine.
holy spirit appointed overseers to shepherd?
6:1, 2; jude 22) are these not good reasons for being obedient to those who are taking the lead?read hebrews 13:17.. .
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Can Jehovah's witnesses eat halal and kosher meat?
by Reynam ini'm new here, i pretty much created this account cause i couldn't find the answer to my question.
and my question is, can jw eat halal and kosher meat?
i was searching online but all i found was that jw dont have any food restrictions besides consuming blood.. if someone can answer my question, please and thank u!.
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Now you’re just splitting hairs on a pointless argument. Excessive consumption of blood is the question to normal people. If you’re a theologian GALAXIE, your book would be incorrect. Answer me this, do you breathe? Simply yes, do you breathe poison gas? If you say yes that would be your choice no one else’s, such as witness bashing that this site was made for. This doctrine of hatred makes no religion any better, since all men are fellable, your approach of belittling one religion for their beliefs was not spoken by Christ in any form, that’s why everyone has a choice to choose whatever religion they want, and at the end, we will see who GOD chose to restart the earth, sounds good?
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Can Jehovah's witnesses eat halal and kosher meat?
by Reynam ini'm new here, i pretty much created this account cause i couldn't find the answer to my question.
and my question is, can jw eat halal and kosher meat?
i was searching online but all i found was that jw dont have any food restrictions besides consuming blood.. if someone can answer my question, please and thank u!.
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The idealism of many religions attempt to entrap a JW with the question of blood. JW’s while abstaining from blood doesn’t necassrually mean 100%. It simply means they don’t intentionally or deliberately consume blood. God gave Adam permission to eat whatever domestic animal he had on his position in the Garden of Eden. However many cultures throughout the world even in today’s meals have people digesting blood. Blood pudding, blood sausage, is a regular cuisine. Kosher food does not mean 100% bloodless. It simply means the meat was blessed by a rabbi before consumption. In the 70’s and 80’s when purchasing meats from the market it had residual blood in the package. JW’s would simply cleanse the meat for consumption, as science later found out that bacteria would linger in the blood. Now the markets go to great lengths to get rid of excessive blood so as not to cause Salmonella poisoning. As an Ex-Witness, this argument is baseless.
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ACTUALLY any form of pants are wrong wrong wrong!!
by hamsterbait intight pants - tempting the gays to chase you: you cannot resist their advances bad bad bad!!!!!!!!!!!!.
baggy pants - in a 1993 witchtower baggy pants were a sign you are a rapper : bad bad bad!!!!!!!!!!.
pants just right?
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I believe the babble comes from your end Bruja-del-Sol . Personally I don’t give a crack of dawn what you or people wear. I suggest if you’re going to blame something so mundane, religion shouldn’t be blamed, as you just said women get raped by people they know. What the hell does that have to do with religion? A man shoots a young man for wearing baggy pants. What the hell does that have to do with religion? It’s societies problem, However if an organization wishes to protect their children what business is it of yours. As I previously posted on another site. You people are a bunch of Ex Jw’s rejects that have nothing better to do than bash an organization that doesn’t need your type of poison. And before you start insulting people that you don’t know for giving their opinion, then you are looking for snakes just like you, to be able to feel good for accepting your type of rhetoric. Your doctrine is no better than the religion you are sworn to hate
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ACTUALLY any form of pants are wrong wrong wrong!!
by hamsterbait intight pants - tempting the gays to chase you: you cannot resist their advances bad bad bad!!!!!!!!!!!!.
baggy pants - in a 1993 witchtower baggy pants were a sign you are a rapper : bad bad bad!!!!!!!!!!.
pants just right?
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You might want to consult the fashion police like Joan Rivers, Kelly Osborne, Giuliana Rancic or the people of what not to Wear Clinton Kelly, Stacy London for that. The Williams Sisters, I wouldn't know since half the time their half naked. I guess the GB focus on wardrobe is simple for those who understand. Anyone remember Trayvon Martin? Because of Societies perception, this young man died. To influence people in society just because of what they wear has become a problem that needs to be addressed. As I stated before, I’m an ex witness so I don’t know what the watchtower publishes, but reading what you people write, it would be logical. Example, if a young girl walking home from school with tight yoga pants and a sports bra that takes a route that is unknown to her with many guys goggling at her? How long will it be before she is confronted by a pervert or worse? Someone mentioned being naked is the way, but Maybe someone has heard this old saying, the clothes make the person. Why because without clothes you take away the thrill, excitement and desire of wanting to know how the person looks like from within. Psychology 101
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ACTUALLY any form of pants are wrong wrong wrong!!
by hamsterbait intight pants - tempting the gays to chase you: you cannot resist their advances bad bad bad!!!!!!!!!!!!.
baggy pants - in a 1993 witchtower baggy pants were a sign you are a rapper : bad bad bad!!!!!!!!!!.
pants just right?
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Wow you people hate the JW's, great the more you hate them the more God knows that organization is on the right path. Let me ask all of you. Does a Bank manager allow you to wear extremely tight pants or very loose pants, Does Joel Osteen wear baggy pants on his evangelist show, does Oral Roberts, does the President or his wife and children wear crappy cloths on TV. In most schools they prevent kids to walk around with extreme wardrobe. If you go to certain states they'll laugh at you or worse, there are laws that prevent you from wearing what you want. So who are you actually upset with. What I see you people have discussed that prove society is at fault not religion. Do you think for one minute if you met a high society person, that person would want to be seen next to someone that doesn’t even respect their self worth to wear proper clothing? From an Ex Witness
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Is The Governing Body Over Jehovah's Witnesses A Bunch Of Arrogant Old Retirees Considering After All That They Claim To Be Christ's Right Hand Man Directing His Dad's Organization On Earth?
by frankiespeakin inthese guys believe that they are running and directing "god's organization" and it is all based on some flimsy parable interpetation about a master who left a slave in charge while he went away with the outcome uncertain upon his return.
not a very solid case to be pointedly honest.
jesus would have made a better choice of donald trump to run his father's business/watchtower corporation, he's less arrogant and doesn't discourage higher education, and plastic children's toys are not a major concern of his.. what is arrogance?.
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From the King James Bible 1611 Apostle Paul wrote @ Timothy 3: 12 Yea, and all that will liue godly in Christ Jesus, shall suffer persecution. 13 But evil men and seducers shall wade worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceiued. 14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned, and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them. 15 And that from a childe thou hast known the holy Scriptures, which are able to make thee wise onto salvation through faith which is in Christ Iesus. 16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, & is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousnesse, 17 that the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished onto all good works
New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures
12+ In fact, all those desiring to live with godly devotion in association with Christ Jesus will also be persecuted. 13+ But wicked men and impostors will advance from bad to worse, misleading and being misled.14+ You, however, continue in the things that you learned and were persuaded to believe, knowing from what persons you learned them 15+ and that from infancy you have known the holy writings, which are able to make you wise for salvation through the faith in connection with Christ Jesus. 16+ All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, 17+ that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work.
This forum is not a discussion site. It’s a hate mongering site. If anyone was removed from an organization that strives to be clean, then they have every right to do so regardless if it is agreeable to those or not. Didn’t the Vatican just release or Defrock 400 priests? Jesus stated to be followers of GOD not man. The only people that view the GB as the ultimate are those that have forgotten Christ teachings. A true follower will adhere to Gods words and if not you prophase to be better than God as Satan did and your soul will be judged by God not man as it is being done now. There is NO man alive that can deem themselves perfect. All men are fellable, but to distort your lies with more lies makes you even less than the organization you attack. If you pretend to be a follower of Christ, then GOD will correct your mistakes through whatever means necessary, or remove you from being a hypocrite. Back in the 70’s and 80’s The Born Again Christians Fully believed that JESUS was God a lie inherited by the Catholic Church. It wasn’t until the 90’s that they corrected themselves by stating Jesus was the son of god. Pastor Russell never prophesied to be a prophet as Muhammad did or Rev Joseph Smith. Russell broke away from misleading ideology that people were preaching at that time just as the Knights Templar did from the Roman Catholic only to be prosecuted and killed by the very same church they had sworn to defend. Has any JW died from this organization for breaking away? Aren’t your distortions and lies proof of that? People are free to believe or disbelieve whatever they want, but if you chose the path of god and have faith in him, then you adhere to the words of Paul. What has man learned from being around for 7000 thousand years, here’s and example. Evangelist Joel Osteen was asked in the CNN Piers Morgan Show if a Gay couple invited him to a gay ceremony would he attend. First he said, probably not, then Piers asked his wife, and she said Sure I would go, if she had the time, then Joel said I would go also. The same thing Adam did with Eve to eat from the forbidden tree. What humanity has learned is nothing but to follow man, that’s why were posed for destruction because we can’t simply tell our mates NO I WONT ATTEND BECAUSE I BILIEVE IN THE WORDS OF GOD AND REFUSE TO BE CONDEMED BY HIM.
As for changing doctrine, they follow the understanding approach. To understand if something knew has been found to better understand seems to me that’s the way to go. Why would I keep an old thought if new evidence has been found? Just like the Iranians that hide biblical archeology from the world so as not to have further evidence the bible is the word of god, to heighten Muhammad teaching to lie to billions of people through Islam, as SPLASH BUT IT Without the Roman Catholic we wouldn't have the Bible as it exists today, Christianity wouldn't be spread around the world as much as it is, and JW's wouldn't have the name 'Jehovah' to claim for themselves, even though the Pope told all their priest in 2012 to REMOVE ALL MENTION of the NAME of GOD JEHOVAH from any place it was written even in the VACILICA. Why hide gods name, why hide proof the bible existed back then. Back then GOD wanted for all mankind to follow in the footsteps of Christ. How many religions do that now?
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Is The Governing Body Over Jehovah's Witnesses A Bunch Of Arrogant Old Retirees Considering After All That They Claim To Be Christ's Right Hand Man Directing His Dad's Organization On Earth?
by frankiespeakin inthese guys believe that they are running and directing "god's organization" and it is all based on some flimsy parable interpetation about a master who left a slave in charge while he went away with the outcome uncertain upon his return.
not a very solid case to be pointedly honest.
jesus would have made a better choice of donald trump to run his father's business/watchtower corporation, he's less arrogant and doesn't discourage higher education, and plastic children's toys are not a major concern of his.. what is arrogance?.
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I’m sorry to say, I will never drench myself in the blood of innocence. But the point was what’s the purpose of your hateful arguments. No one from the governing body hears it; no one who is a true JW listens to this pathetic rhetoric. When Jesus stated only through him, salvation would be. It wasn’t just a statement, that lets say The Muslims believe Mohammed spoke to God and became a Prophet, or that somehow Peter wished to heighten or elevate his status better than Christ as the Roman Catholic say, or that REV Joseph Smith Walked with Christ in the New World. Jesus was the last and only Sacrifice for all mankind. No other prophets would come after him. Where is your hatred toward all these false religions? If you’re seeking the truth, find it and enlighten the masses to follow in Christ foot steps. Become a theologian research all that you can from the past and learn of much of what has been said in the past new revelations have emerged by recent discoveries. Do you scorn what past policies and publications the Catholic Church has printed that have no bearing in today’s society? Or nonfictional books like the book or Mormons that cater to a delusional but smart person who got around the laws of that time by proclaiming himself a prophet? When the time comes, we will all be judged by the only true god. So no thanks even if I fry I won’t worship Satan in any form. I’ll leave that up to people like you that gather great strength in doing he’s bidding.
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Is The Governing Body Over Jehovah's Witnesses A Bunch Of Arrogant Old Retirees Considering After All That They Claim To Be Christ's Right Hand Man Directing His Dad's Organization On Earth?
by frankiespeakin inthese guys believe that they are running and directing "god's organization" and it is all based on some flimsy parable interpetation about a master who left a slave in charge while he went away with the outcome uncertain upon his return.
not a very solid case to be pointedly honest.
jesus would have made a better choice of donald trump to run his father's business/watchtower corporation, he's less arrogant and doesn't discourage higher education, and plastic children's toys are not a major concern of his.. what is arrogance?.
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It appears that your hatred toward the governing body is somewhat personal. Were you disfellowshipped to acquire such hate? I am an ex witness myself, but don’t blame anyone but myself for accepting the desires of this world. The way you speak, you have chosen to praise The God of this system. So from your point of view, is your God any better? At the very least JW’s attempt to conform themselves to the teaching of Christ, who was murdered by the very same God and people you hold in high regard. From the mouth of a parasite to the ears of another. If you must poison something keep your poisoned mind aloft
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exJW Psychology 105--"Are You Ready for The Big A?"
by Billy the Ex-Bethelite ini don't know how many others have gotten this question that i got recently.
i wonder if it was the co that thought this would be a great question to try to reactivate someone like me:.
at the time, i was kinda blindsided by the question and gave just an okay response.
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Are you easily fooled not to believe in Christ Heavenly Kingdom, or has your impatient embittered you to lose faith in the only one that can restore this system of things to its former glory. Bare in mind that JESUS himself was proclaiming the END of this system of things. Since GOD is the only one who knows when the end is, and is a loving GOD, perhaps HE has waited this long to give humanity the same opportunity he gave the people of Sodom and Gomorra and the biblical Flood. To lose faith in that, you have already condemned your soul to this system of things, and when that day comes be it here on earth standing or underground, prepare to be JUDGE by the only true GOD JEHOVAH. I to am an Ex Witness, But I have not poisoned my heart, mind, and soul only to be judged by the very spirit that gave me life to say, your judgment not only comes to you, but to all the souls you corrupted by you’re hate in your fellow man, and deceived the masses as the Pharisees of old did.