Apostate talk with the in laws

SloppyJoe

So I was over my in laws and suddenly I find myself in a conversation with my mother in law who says if they bring a new bible out at the annual meeting she is leaving the organization. We didn't go until this morning but we strongly encouraged her to prepare herself. Somehow this led into all the things she hates about the organization. At one point I told her that she would be an apostate if she said the things she was saying openly. She didn't believe me. In the course of the conversation I was truly amazed about how very little she knew doctrine. She has been in 46 years. No idea how to calculate 1914. No idea how vital 1914 was to the organization. No idea 1919 has no biblical backing. No idea how the governing body receives communication from God. I had to tell her I was amazed she didnt know any of it. I showed 587 in an encyclopoedia and she was shocked it didn't say 607. Even still she just didn't seem to grasp the importance of 1914 and it's lack of foundation. To end this story after I explained all this she even acknowledged that they make stuff up to suit what they want. Today when she got the bible she said oh I get why they made the changes and didn't seem to care. Quite a different reaction then 24 hours prior.

cofty

The organisation depends on people not really understanding what they are supposed to believe.

Looks like you have an opening to discuss doubts if you are careful. Be warned she could switch into loyal cult mode and report you.

braincleaned

Is she bipolar? (I am, that's why I ask)

Phizzy

Typical JW mind-controlled reaction. The main control is making sure that the JW's have no education as to facts, and especially that they only have a very hazy idea of WT doctrine.

A clever trick if you can pull it off, as the WT has, and persuade millions of benighted JW's to donate cash and work for free.

SloppyJoe

Braincleaned we have discussed her being bipolar as she has drastic mood swings on a whim on a daily basis. No diagnosis though.

Apognophos

Perhaps she misunderstood the term "new Bible" to mean that the Society was making up new books of the Bible? I'm only half-joking, as she seems to have gone from considering it to be a total scandal to saying, "Oh, they just made some little changes" once she learned about the release. That being said, it does sound like she might have some deeper issue.

But on the subject of the dates, that's true of many Witnesses. Many brothers and sisters are just along for the ride and perfectly content to kick back and let someone else drive the car of their mind. Why trouble themselves with all that stuff when it's not talked about in the literature very often?

leavingwt

Where else could she go?

Terry

Where else could she go?

Christadelphians or 7th Day Adventists would take the least adjustment.

LostGeneration

It is stunning when you consider it seriously -- so many have no idea what they really believe. As LWT states, they have no other option. They have hitched everything to the WT train, and it doesn't matter where it takes them, as long as they get their pet panda and unlimited fruit platters in the new system of things, what is a little inconvenience now?

Its why the system won't collapse. Some hope for the WT to "go down" in a ball of fire in some manner. It will never happen. Even if the leaders took the cash and ran off to the Canary Islands, the power vacuum would be filled by a major replacement and a few minor alternatives. The rank and file would shuffle off to the newest version of the FDS and probably less than 10% would escape the mindset.

zeb

so now she 'understands'... it is now fully clear ..despite she had no idea what she believed in the first place.

Apostate talk with the in laws

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