bboy, why does it matter? Are you serious? If someone shows a pattern of confusion, changes churches, changes sexual preferences, and changes his beliefs about God, then the people who listen to him as a voice of information, who share opposite beliefs and sexual preferences need to know this for it would undermine their confidence in what he says about other things. In other words, do you think that some non-JW Christian would be more likely to believe Randy's experience knowing that he is gay (if he is), an atheist, and has flip-flopped like a fish out of water from church to church? If they don't care then fine. But they need to know the whole truth about nuts like Randy, AF, and YOU. Besides, how much credibility can someone have in speaking about what God approves when he plunges his reproductive organ into someone else's waste canal? THINK! Don't just react because you come here for substitute therapy and don't get reassurance in every topic.
Help? Response about freeminds
by mpatrick 33 Replies latest jw friends
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Mishnah
larc, thanks! I appreciate the flattery embedded in your imitation. That also shows you don't have much independent thinking capacity. I understand. I know that it helps you make sense of reality when you ignore probing question of a sensitive nature and try to deflect attention, including your own, from the topic by remarking the way you did. If it helps you I say press on! See if you can find something else to spin off from. I'll let you know if I think it helped you deal with the situation or just made you look stupid.
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Mishnah
Tina, are you dumb enough to think that people like me are being sent in by the Watchtower Society? I think maybe you bleached your hair a thousand too many times and finally ate away at your brain. You do nothing but distract from the point. At least you did not reveal your fetish with cross-dressing like the other nit-wits. Now, go put on some more make-up. It helps hide what you fear most and that is yourself. Boy! You nuts have so many obvious disorders! Don't worry, Tina, just like the junk you and others vomit forth I am using what you know best to get your attention so I can help you. I want to help you!
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Mishnah
AF, that's all you could come up with? If you need me to call the paramedics for you let me know. I want to help you AF. What was your shrink's name? But for me to really help you have to let down the barriers. I know that the vomit you chew on is a source of comfort, like the mud and filth that a pig bathes in. I understand.
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Mishnah
jonjon, YOU care. THAT is why you responded. I know that responding to say you don't care helps you address your fears but I can't help you unless you're going to be honest with me and with yourself. Are you gay?
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Mishnah
Dogpatch/Randy, I wrote that not mpatrick. I heard it in a chat room. About a year ago. If you say you are not gay I believe you. If you say you believe in God I believe you. I just ASKED. Better that I ask than to go around claiming something I heard was factual right? So you should thank me for checking before I spread what I heard. You're welcome! But please confirm for me - Are you now or have you at any time engaged in any form of homosexual conduct? Do you believe that the God of the Bible is a true and living God? Thanks!
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Mishnah
waiting, I want to encourage you to keep posting that you really think your buddies are right and funny and I am wrong and not funny. This kind of positive reinforcement will help get you through those nights where you question yourself and your decisions. I don't want you to have to suffer through that. It's better if you use me as a means of deflection. I'll play that part for you! And will you do me the favor of continuing to post just as you have? It's very important. I'll reveal this to you as you move forward this way. We're making progress people!
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waiting
Hey Mishnah,
Yep, that freeminds guy is very confused. But you nuts keep listening to people like him and AF, another loon who was in couch-therapy. I heard that Randy of freeminds no longer believes in God and is a homosexual. Can anyone verify this? -Mishnah
Well, Mish, I didn't even comment on the first part of your response, highlighted for your benefit. You insinuated that MPatrick, and/or all of us, were "nuts" to listen to "people like him and AF, another loon who was in couch-therepy."
I believe the responses you were given for your wide-spread insults were spot-on. You insulted everyone - and now you seem insulted - as if you didn't *start it*?
Don't think so, Mish. If you want a welcome, don't start with the "loon-nuts-couch therepy" statements. You wrote them not as a question - but as a definitive statement of fact.
Bad taste, rude, insultive - and imho, absolutely false.
waiting
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Kent
Yep, that freeminds guy is very confused. But you nuts keep listening to people like him and AF, another loon who was in couch-therapy. I heard that Randy of freeminds no longer believes in God and is a homosexual. Can anyone verify this?
I won't sugarcoat this letter. This is a very bitter letter. Small children and the faint of heart should stop reading and leave the room. For most of the facts I'm about to present, I have provided documentation and urge you to confirm these facts for yourself if you're skeptical.
Griping about Bro. Mishnah will not make him stop trying to encourage young people to break all the rules, cut themselves loose from their roots, and adopt an unimaginative lifestyle. But even if it did, he would just find some other way to confuse, befuddle, and neutralize public opposition. As is so often the case, a great many of us don't want him to shred the basic compact between the people and their government. But we feel a prodigious societal pressure to smile, to be nice, and not to object to his grotesque pronouncements. Mishnah's invectives are not witty satire, as he would have you believe. They're simply the lecherous ramblings of someone who has no idea or appreciation of what he's mocking. Mishnah is absolutely determined to believe that society is supposed to be lenient towards benighted wastrels, and he's not about to let facts or reason get in his way.
Many experts now believe that we could opt to sit back and let him deface property with racially and sexually derogatory epithets and offensive symbols. Most people, however, would argue that the cost in people's lives and self-esteem is an extremely high price to pay for such inaction on our part. To have more impact on Earth's biological, geological, and chemical systems during our lifetime and our children's than all preceding human generations had together is Mishnah's objective, and misinformed collectivism is his method. Mishnah's publicity stunts are a public admission of his immaturity and insensitivity. But it doesn't stop there.
The notion that Mishnah can be reformed into an upright and honorable person may be a pleasant and attractive thought. But people who believe that this can happen should ask it of Santa Claus, in whom they doubtless also believe. Wouldn't it be wonderful if we lived in a world without pathological cretins? When lying and evidence-tampering fail, he usually turns to outright intimidation to maintain social control by eliminating rights and freedoms. Of course, this sounds simple, but in reality, the real issue is simple: We must keep our eyes on the prize. I guess I can't blame Mishnah for wanting to turn once-flourishing neighborhoods into zones of violence, decay, and moral disregard. After all, time cannot change his behavior. Time merely enlarges the field in which Mishnah can, with ever-increasing intensity and thoroughness, quash other people's opinions.
He has it all wrong; every time he utters or writes a statement that supports sensationalism -- even indirectly -- it sends a message that he has mystical powers of divination and prophecy. I claim we mustn't let him make such statements, partly because he is a master of psychological manipulation, but primarily because when you tell Mishnah's apostles that I find Mishnah's mottos highly insulting, they begin to get fidgety, and their eyes begin to wander. They really don't care. They have no interest in hearing that we must reinforce what is best in people. If we don't, future generations will not know freedom. Instead, they will know fear; they will know sadness; they will know injustice, poverty, and grinding despair. Most of all, they will realize, albeit far too late, that ever since Mishnah decided to clear forests, strip the topsoil, and turn a natural paradise into a dust bowl through a self-induced drought, his consistent, unvarying line has been that he is a paragon of morality and wisdom. To say anything else would be a lie. Mishnah argues that he is a bearer and agent of the Creator's purpose. To maintain this thesis, Mishnah naturally has had to shovel away a mountain of evidence, which he does by the desperate expedient of claiming that doing the fashionable thing is more important than life or liberty. He is trying to create anomie. His mission? To dress up his profit motive in the cloak of selfless altruism.
Now, I am all for freedom of speech, but when Mishnah says that everything is happy and fine and good, in his mind, that's supposed to end the argument. It's like he believes he has said something very profound. He likes to imply that censorship could benefit us. This is what his convictions amount to, although, of course, they're daubed over with the viscid slobber of noxious drivel devised by his allies and mindlessly multiplied by impetuous, snotty rubes. If Mishnah isn't misguided, I don't know who is.
Guess what? We must learn to celebrate our diversity, not because it is the politically correct thing to do, but because in order to convince us that he is forward-looking, open-minded, and creative, Mishnah often turns to the old propagandist trick of comparing results brought about by entirely dissimilar causes. His "compromises" constitute one of the many conduits of fanaticism in our culture. And here, I contend, lies a clue to the intellectual vacuum so gapingly apparent in his double standards. Well, sure; I don't think it is a mere coincidence that this, of itself, is prima facie evidence that this screams of the old belief that high-handed malcontents are merely sullen hippies, but that doesn't change reality.
There are two flaws with Mishnah's tracts: 1) no one can be right all of the time, and 2) ancient Greek dramatists discerned a peculiar virtue in being tragic. Mishnah would do well to realize that they never discerned any virtue in being belligerent. He obviously didn't have to pass an intelligence test to get to where he is today, because his knowledge of how things work is completely off the mark. First of all, the only appropriate attitudes in a society overrun by scornful scrubs are fear and distrust. Or, to express that sentiment without the emotionally charged lingo, if the human race is to survive on this planet, we will have to deal with the relevant facts.
Think of all the lives that could be saved if we would just make the world safe for democracy. Certainly, Mishnah's method (or school, or ideology -- it is hard to know exactly what to call it) goes by the name of "Mishnah-ism". It is a pouty and avowedly morally repugnant philosophy that aims to bombard me with insults. You might object to my claim that I pray for the day when those who censor by caricature and preempt discussion by stereotype will see what they're doing to the world and to all its citizens. But bear in mind that once you understand his editorials, you have a responsibility to do something about them. To know, to understand, and not to act, is an egregious sin of omission. It is the sin of silence. It is the sin of letting Mishnah exercise control through indirect coercion or through psychological pressure or manipulation.
If I have characterized his lieutenants up to now as silly and slatternly, it is only because his bromides manifest themselves in two phases. Phase one: fill the air with recrimination and rancor. Phase two: bribe the parasitic with the earnings of the productive. Personally, I don't expect Mishnah to give up his crusade to seize control over where we eat, sleep, socialize, and associate with others. But we'll see. While others have also published information about the most unrestrained power brokers you'll ever see, his intimations are destructive. They're morally destructive, socially destructive -- even intellectually destructive. And, as if that weren't enough, it can be distinguished only with difficulty which of his adherents act out of inner stupidity or incompetence and which only pretend to for whatever malicious, disrespectful reason. Now that's a rather crude and simplistic statement, and, in many cases, it may not even be literally true. But there is a sense in which it is generally true, a sense in which it undeniably expresses how I am not up on the latest gossip. Still, I have heard people say that he tries to make us think the way he wants us to think, not by showing us evidence and reasoning with us, but by understanding how to push our emotional buttons. Two quick comments: 1) Few people realize that the entire premise of Mishnah's statements is incredibly offensive to any self-respecting person, and 2) his shell games are a load of bunk. I use this delightfully pejorative term, "bunk" -- an alternative from the same page of my criminal-slang lexicon would serve just as well -- because if he can one day operate in the gray area between legitimate activity and uncouth misoneism, then the long descent into night is sure to follow. This letter has gone on far too long, in my opinion, and probably yours as well. So let me end it by saying merely that I, hardheaded cynic that I am, insist that Bro. Mishnah is full of it.
Yakki Da
Kent
"The only difference between a fool and the JW legal department is that a fool might be sympathetic ."
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Tina
I think the goo gang/pmf personas need to get a new insult for me. The bleached blonde and cross dressing one is really worn out. And a dead give-away.