Jesus taught by way of illustration (defd, Shadow, Scholar)

by AuldSoul 4 Replies latest jw friends

  • AuldSoul
    AuldSoul

    I have been trying to refine an illustration I posted about a week ago. Please consider this story and give feedback.

    Suppose a man approached you with these words, "I am God's prophet. An important one, too. I should be compared to John, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, and Isaiah. I have come to explain to you the fulfillment of all the prophecies of the Bible." He starts handing you books he has written that detail the meaning of each element of every prophecy of God. Not only that, he reveals to you—by means of these books—that things you didn't even think of as prophecies actually were prophecies, and he tells you what they mean, too!

    Once you have read all the books, he says, "Oh. One more thing. You have to prove yourself approved by God. Here's the requirements for that." He hands you another stack of books, "Study up on those, you are going to be judged according to how well you meet those requirements!"

    This man dies after about thirty years, then a small group of men comes to you with more writings. This small group says that the other man was confused, he wasn't a prophet by himself. Instead, there was a whole group of folks and together they make a true prophet. But only about 13-17 actually decide what it is God is trying to say. This group changes many of the meanings of the elements of the prophecies, and many fulfillments change after the due date comes and goes unfilfilled. This group tells you it is a shame you got your hopes up based on what they said, you were just a little overeager.

    Over the next 90 years, this same group keeps coming back and revising what God said would happen, often after the fact. They extensively revise what is required to please God during this period of time, too, adding and subtracting as time rocks on, sometimes even adding to and then coming back to remove the addition.

    Would you teach your son that this group speaks for God? (Deuteronomy 18:20-22)

    AuldSoul

  • skinnyboy
    skinnyboy

    circular logic will be posted shortly no doubt.

    The funny thing is Auld, that you can't fault these "3 Tenors" of the board for their faith in what is a Printing Company after all.

    Kinda quaint i think, in this world of free information, they still cling to the belief that from 6 billion people only one religion will survive, including the peadophiles, wife beaters, homosexuals (no offence) and the rest of the detritus that make up the WBTS!

    Theres more chance of me riding a comet to the afterlife than that happening!

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    Defd announced on Friday that he was taking another break. Of course, since he only posts from work, he takes a break every weekend. His resolve may have disintegrated by Monday.

    I notice defd takes a break when his inner conflict is noted by other posters here. Rarely have I met a person so "out of touch" with his true feelings. I wonder if he has thought very deeply about why I disturb him so much?

  • Narkissos
    Narkissos

    In psycho-economical terms, a marginal investment issue.

    You've already put so much into a desperate business that (1) it is plain silly to invest one extra day into it; (2) what you would save by not investing the extra day is ridiculous in comparison to what you have already lost; (3) the extra cost of losing face makes it appear better to keep on investing.

    But your last question introduces a new character: would you teach your son = would you transmit him such a ruinous legacy?

    I guess it depends how your love for your son measures with how you assess the cost of losing face. The terrible truth is, in many cases, it doesn't unbalance it.

    Although I guess many old JWs are secretly relieved and proud that their children do not follow their way. Even while shunning them.

  • AuldSoul
    AuldSoul

    jgnat, I have noticed the same thing. Friday he left for lunch and when he came back he was supposedly going to answer Dave's question. Instead, he winked out of the ether for the weekend. I doubt Dave will get him to answer, but maybe the most important thing is Dave got him to ask.

    That is the purpose of trying to refine this illustration. I want to come up with a good, simple illustration that will make people ask. PLEASE, everyone give feedback on what, in your opinion, would improve the illustration. I'm not looking to make it more complex, or address more issues, just looking to make it more applicable.

    I want to make a Zine stuffer/handout from this. I have a dream of laundromat followups. I have a dream of street canvassing. I have a dream of getting this into the hands of churches in my area.

    AuldSoul

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