confused 18 year old

by lonelysam 22 Replies latest jw friends

  • lonelysam
    lonelysam

    hey everyone,

    as you can see im new here, and like every new person im trying to sort alll this JW stuff out. I have no idea where to start, but here goes.. I first started questioning all this when 'a brother' in the congregation sexually abused one of my best friends family members, he did not get disfellowshipped, but he got publicly reproved?! arnt you either right OR wrong?! and if he did it, isnt it serious enough to be disfellowshipped? anyway this started it all (me being confused that is), then i looked into the 1975 exspectation, and alll these other things that are sooo insane that i can see the organisation is man made. so wats next i ask? should i leave and loose all my good friends? or should i continue, just ignoring all this? i know the answer, but its hard to follow through with it. well thats the extreme short version of my story, see you all later

  • Ianone
    Ianone

    The molester should not just be disfellowshipped, he should be in prison. The truth is one of the most important things. The truth is that you need to get out of this mind trap, even if it means losing your friends. If they are truly your friends, they will not shun you.

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    First step, independence. If you are still living at home, the consequences are too severe to break free. So get a part-time job, open your own bank account, and start building towards an independent life. Another simple way to accomplish this is to pick a college far enough from home that your parents can't check up on you constantly.

    Second step, what do you believe? Sadly, it's a lot easier to figure out what is wrong with the society than it is to figure out a right way to live. It's not enough to discard a bad belief. You have to replace it with something or else you might drift in with the wrong crowd. Start dreaming, planning, envisioning what your ideal life would look like five years from now. What are you doing? Now, what would you have to start doing now to get to your five-year dream? It is amazing how many "opportunities" drop in the lap of those who have a dream. My guess is that those who have written down their dream recognize the opportunity when it floats by. Grab it!

    Third step, develop a social life outside the hall. Join a club. Find a hobby.

    These three steps will make the transition to independent living that much less painful. Who knows, your family may even recognize that shunning wouldn't hurt you and they may decide to keep in touch after all.

  • Jordan
    Jordan

    You've come to the right place. Welcome to the board lonelysam, there's a whole world out there for you to experience, and by coming on here you've taken your first steps towards that world.

  • AuldSoul
    AuldSoul

    Welcome!

    I have bad news for you, lonelysam. Unless the molestation was witnessed by someone else, i.e. unless he was caught in the act, there is already at least one other person that reported this man molested them. For an accusation to be admitted aginst an elder there must be at least two witnesses. Sometimes, even that is deemed insufficient.

    But, children who are molested rarely come forward with the charges. So how many more are there? It is criminal conduct. Did the elder body aid and abet the evasion of criminal prosecution?

    But I am glad you are questioning deeply. Anyone who does, leaves eventually. The quicker they leave, the more of the rest of their life they win.

    AuldSoul

  • rebel8
    rebel8

    You are right, you know the answer but it's hard to follow through with. What is your living situation--are you living with your parents and how would they react if you became inactive in the org?

    You coming to the realization that the org is not what it claims to be is a giant first step--one you should be proud of. Things will work out for you in this transition. It may not seem like it now, but it's true.

    First thing to realize is it's ok to use your mind. It's not evil or disobedient to God to think and evaluate things. If it's "The Truth", it will withstand close examination. (The 1975 thing got me too. They were telling me they never said anything about 1975. Then you read the old literature and see they did--"you'll never finish a college degree if you start college now"--said in 1968. website books

  • FreeWilly
    FreeWilly

    Hey Sam,

    You are where most of us were at one time. I can tell you my answer to your questions.

    Should I leave and loose all my good friends? - You'll likely see that this is not going to be enough to keep you "in" for the long term. It is hard to break from the only freinds you have, but it's even harder to fake it when you know the real deal. And to be honest, most people your age end up getting out. Don't be surprised if you not laughing it up with one of them a few years down the road thinking how silly you both were to be mixed up with the JW's.

    Want some good advice? Your 18. You've just removed the blinders. Remember all the things you've daydreamed about doing when you were at those brain deadening all day assemblies? We'll guess what, you get do actually do them instead of telling yourself "maybe in the new system". Congratulations, you've just given yourself the most valuable gift you'll ever posses - your life back!

    or should i continue, just ignoring all this? I don't think you'll have much of a choice. It just doesn't work. The most you can do is delay the inevitable. And by the way, if you're real good at ignoring it you could delay it beyond the best part of you're youth (right now) and then wish you could go back and do it all over but can't cause now you are older and have responsibilities.

    i know the answer, but its hard to follow through with it. Be careful with this one. Many a decade has been pissed away dumping off magazines, letting others run your life and pretending to be spiritual. Suck it up. It will be a character building experience. Plus you're in the best position to walk away with little baggage from it all. You are so extremely lucky and you might not know it. The only drawback is that at 18 people tend to be more affected by what others say, think and tell them. This usually doesn't subside till later in life.

    When I was 18 I got out too. I moved to California, learned to surf, climb, bike, ski, snowboard, and scuba. I traveled to many places in the world for no other reason than to do these things, meet new people and see another culture. I made tons of friends along the way. And yes, JW family and friends tried to get me to come back to their mind numbing stifling religion, and even guilted me for living my own life. It even worked and I gave JW's another try. But by this time I was in my mid-20's and had done alot of stuff. That relapse only lasted 3 years and I eventually removed my head from my ass and got out for good.

    Guess which years I am most fond of ? It's your life. Live it or piss it away it's entirely up to you.

    Want some advice? Here's a start: Move somewhere cool. Get a job anywhere. Go to college for a semester or two and Mix that up with the adventure of you're choosing.

  • Sam the Man
    Sam the Man

    Hi lonelySam.

    Thanks for stopping by. It's a hard thing to question your faith - especially when you have been raised in it. I was also raised in it, and when I began to question things it seemed like it was the wrong thing for me to do. Was Jehovah angry with me? I felt such guilt.

    Remember that the Bible tells you that you should question the things you think are right, contary to what the 'Faithful and Discreet Slave' says. The persuit of truth can only begin once you question every belief that you have ever held dear. For me, the belief that the Faithful Slave could have been chosen in 1919 by Jesus was totally floored. When I examined what the Society had been saying in and before 1919, it became evident to me that Jesus could never have chosen them to lead God's people. They said that the end of the world would come in 1914..1915 then 1918. Nothing. Russell had taught that the Pyramids were put there by God as his second witness next to the Bible, and this helped him to come up with the 1914 date.

    Through years of being taught the Watchtower way, even when faced with such amount of evidence and fact against them, the Governing Body become somewhat untouchable to us, as if we are doing wrong questioning them. But you have started your persuit of truth today at the right place. There is so much to learn... I would suggest buying Crises of Conscience, a book written by former Governing Body member Ray Franz (nephew of president Fred Franz). He wrote another book, In Search of Christian Freedom, but i'd say start at CoC.

    I'm glad you are here.

  • Es
    Es

    welcome to the board....take one day at a time, its hard at first to leave but believe me it gets easier everyday, you will be so excited with all the opportunities what the world out there offers.

    We are here for you

    Look forward to hearing more from you

    es

  • garybuss
    garybuss

    so wats next i ask?
    If the abused family member was a child, pick up the phone and call 911 and report the crime.

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