by greendawn 22 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
At my most vulnerable point in life, in the couple months before I started studying, I thought I was a victim. I felt like because of my past mistakes, my west indian mother in law cast something on me.
Lonelysheep;
I'm half cuban and that stuff is in my cultural backround too. I think it's nothing to worry about unless you believe in it. What kind of things do they do in the west indies like this? I'm not familiar with thier religions.
incidentally, lately i have been trying different occult incantations at night in the basement to see if anything comes of it. you can get them all online. this is all part of my deconversion odyssey from magical thinking that also involved ouija boards and haunted house tours. when i left the truth, i was truly curious to know about this stuff.
anyways, last night i tried some incantations to satan and some legions. north, south, east, west and pit. candles and all.
i waited. tried again. nothing happened. i wasn't surprised. i awoke this morning as well rested as any morning.
perhaps i will start a thread on my skeptic adventures.
TS (of the dumb-ass atheist class)
Tetra,
Next time you do this please video tape it for me like I asked you before. I would love to see how close the image in my head is to real life of you doing this. LOL you're great!
Some American Indian tribes believe in Spells a such..Skinwalkers and so on.
Shapeshifting...
TS, silly man! Of course your incantations failed. You gots to believe for it to work. Love the avatar, BTW. From what I hear it is a great likeness .
AuldSoul
LOL auldsoul, thanks.
TS, silly man! Of course your incantations failed. You gots to believe for it to work.
i did put aside my atheism for a few hours while i tried it all. if there were any spirits interacting with my synapses, i wanted them to see that i was open to whatever came out of the darkness.
sucubus would have been nice. but whatever.
mis,
I would love to see how close the image in my head is to real life of you doing this.
if nudity and live chicken head eating is okay, then i'll record one next time and send it off.
you devilish minx you... LOL
TS
The mind is a powerful thing. If you BELIEVE that someone cast a spell on you and it will cause you harm your own thinking may just well lead you to manifest some symptom. This is no more "real" than the fact that someone mentioning a sore throat makes you examine yours more closely.
In my opinion, it is definitely how receptive or believing the mind of the "victim" is to this stuff. If you think it can happen -- it probably will, in one form or another. Mind over matter.
Years ago when I was younger, I got really drunk one night. Being a weekday I had to work the next day (mechanical job). I went into work with a massive hangover and just mentioned that it seemed warm in the shop. There was another guy there who was a real psycho-somatic type. When I realized I had caught his attention, I thought I might have some fun.
I asked him if he thought it was warm. He said not really but looked concerned. Then I told him I thought it was cool and he tentatively agreed. This went on for a little while, me telling him it seemed warm and then a little later telling him it seemed cold and back-and-forth like this for a while. I also interspersed my temperature complaints with a headache and such.
After about an hour this poor sap went home sick! He had gotten sick with chills and had to go home because he (thought he had...) the flu or something worse. This guy got a case of chills and self-inflicted flu ... from my hangover and the power of suggestion!
Needless to say the others in the shop thought it outrageously funny and never let this guy live it down. Yep, the mind is a powerful thing!
Robert
Be I learned "the lie" I wasn't superstious at all. Ironically I became fear-permeated when I became a JW. Now that I'm onto them, I have begun to realize that this demon stuff is actually used to enslave the mind. As a JW I had to worry about garage sales "evil charms" like demonized clothes, etc.Now I realize on the gleaming wings of reason that these things do not exist. I'm free. The human mind is very suggestible and can often see and hear things that aren't real, even when completly sane. Superstistions and beliefs in demons play off this human characteristic much to the delight of religious tyrants. Reason is setting me free! Thanks to science and independent thinking we can see reality for what it really is, and it is indeed pure and free of darkness, demons, fear and destruction.
I think it's nothing to worry about unless you believe in it. What kind of things do they do in the west indies like this?
I agree, and at that time, I believed in it and knew she didn't like me.
I've heard some stories from my former jw friend, who is from Suriname, about some people in her family who have done some stuff. My inlaws are from Guyana.
It seems to me to depend entirely upon the belief/faith of the persons involved.
I don't think this is something that can be faked, tetrapod, without a lot of practice. A common mistake is to expect very quick results. People who practice magick study and practice for years sometimes before experiencing significant results that appear to be anything more than subjective. The majority of the results seen tend to be internal.
