by LDH 22 Replies latest jw friends
Believe me, Lisa - it's much more fun out in the sunshine than deep into the shadows!
Maybe this little story was an answer to Priscas question as well? I'm not even sarcastic....
Yakki Da
Kent
"The only difference between a fool and the JW legal department is that a fool might be sympathetic ."
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Interestingly, my parents have adopted a Clinton/Gays in the military approach. They don't ask, I don't tell.
However, listening to my 66 year old aunt never married (AAA--Available After Armageddon club) who's had a career in book sales courtesy of the WBTS was just more than I can bear.
Although I won't push my beliefs off on them, if they are going to ask they are going to get an earful every time.
She tried that shit, "I don't feel comfortable talking to you if you don't love Jehovah."
I said, "How in the hell is not doing what the 'Twelve Angry Men' want and loving Jehovah even comparable? They ARE NOT JEHOVAH you have been deceived."
"Oh this is too much for me, I need my asthma inhaler."
ha ha, whatever.
PS, Between worlds, I have been tormented by those dreams for about a year now.
The most vivid one a couple weeks ago, I hit my mother. LOL
Good for you Lisa!
I get the same sort of thing from my staunch-JW sister - we've had to agree to disagree just to keep the peace. I haven't been as straight with her, but I've got to the point where I will be next time!
Kent - I know what you are getting at. No offence taken.
Lisa,
What you have done takes a lot of courage.
I looked my Mother straight in the face and told her I would never return. Strangely she thanked me for my honesty.
I think they know of my "apostate" doings, but pretend nothing is going on, that way they don't have to shun me.
They have shunned me before, but my Mother cannot handle it. I am grateful that she has some maternal instinct in her. I am not even her natural daughter......I have 5 adoptive sisters that are all JW's and only one of them gives me trouble.
I tell her to "watch her children"!!!
Ana
I will defend, to your death, my right to my opinion.
Lisa,
I had a very similiar conversation with my mother last month. She even had the audacity to tell me she knew I was reading apostate literature, a friend of mine who I studied with told her Thinker had sent her a quote from a 1925 WT. I asked Mom how that could be apostate, that it was a direct quote. She said that it was misquoted. I said no it was direct. She told me if I kept reading this apostate material, I was in great danger.
The upshot of the conversation is, I realize, my Mom is playing WT games. And I just am totally disgusted with it. I also told her I was never coming back. Sometimes you just get full up with it and the truth pops out.
It has been a month now and I have no desire to talk to them. I think I am just irritated beyond repair and recognizing that if they are in and I am out, we have nothing in common.
TW
Between Worlds:
The fear of that dreaded conversation is the worst thing about it. Usually it's not as bad as you fear and although they definitely will change their feelings toward you and may even hate you, the peace you finally get is well worth it.
Debating with them is generally useless. No matter what logical facts you present, no matter what articles and quotes you wave in front of them, they will find some lame way to excuse the WT. It's very frustrating.
The simple straight up comments Lisa used are the best. They really aren't interested in an explanation and you're not interested in a lecture. You are just exercising your right to "cease to be involved".
Path
When I was eight months along with my first child, my mother called to tell me that if I didn't come back in 'the truth', my baby would die. What kind of thing is that to tell a pregnant woman? It seems they will stoop to any means to drag you back in.
Lisa,
"Well You'll be sorry one day soon because your children are going to pay for you not being JW."
My mom pulled that one on me altho hers wasn't only about coming back to the KH...but that's another story. Anyway, I know how angry I got hearing that their 'loving' god was gonna kill my kids just because he didn't like me much,,,and that was one of the things that made me determined not to ever go back. Like someone else has mentioned in this thread, it is waaaaay cool that your children, like mine, will not be raised in such a sick, controlling environment. I know that it's difficult going through what you are at the moment and I just want you to know that I wish you the best.
Dana
"I undid his head collar and took him outside for a drink, and felt, if not exactly a communion with him, at least an awareness of being a fellow creature on a lonely planet."
Dick Francis in "To The Hilt"
You're preggie, LDH?
[gulp] I am really sorry if I offeneded you in any way and I will try to remember your condition! ;-) What is your favorite food craving? Have you felt the little one kick yet?
Rex
