Sexual Abuse Memories are implanted by Satan, so Forget & Endure Them

by Gerard 53 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse

  • Doubtfully Yours
    Doubtfully Yours

    I personally know of a case in which a rebellious teenager claimed Repressed Memory Syndrome of past sexual abuse at the hands of her father.

    She and her siblings were taken away from the home, and the poor man/family was subjected to the greatest of scrutinies and almost convicted the father if not for the excellent investigative work of social workers, detectives and lawyers. By the way, his defense fees put the family in the poor house big time!

    When the daughter turned 27 years old and she was done ruining her adult life with illegitimate children and , she came out in public and said she had lied about the whole thing as a way of getting back at her parents whom she thought restricted her a lot.

    The horrible damage had been done and there was no taking it back. However, as parents usually do, they've forgiven this evil human being for what she did.

    DY

  • Gerard
    Gerard

    It is possible that repressed [abuse] memories are not accurate, but an elder is not capable to determine this nor to perform an adequate criminal investigation.

    All claims must be forwarded to the police -no exceptions- so the WT should quit waving this [doctrine] articles whether is on their homepage or in their "online library".

  • Doubtfully Yours
    Doubtfully Yours

    Karma is a wonderful thing, though.

    The woman has her share of heartaches/headaches/serious problems with illegitimate children, abusive partners, big time in the poor house.

    The parents sure forgave her, but her siblings, immediate relatives, and other friends will not give her the time of the day.

    She's sure paying for the irreparable damage she did. What goes around, comes around. What a wonderful concept.

    DY

  • dedpoet
    dedpoet

    A brother in my former cong was suspected for years of child abuse of his own children and others. This first came to the attention of the elders in 1997, but of course nothing was done, and he was later appointed an elder himself, but was later removed from the body in 2002 as he was not attending regularly at that point. He then apparently began attending again, and "rebuilt" his life to such an extent that he was about to be re - appointed last year, but the police stepped in and arrested him for........child sexual assault! He is now doing a 7 year prison sentence, but last I heard he had "repented" and is still a jw, having been forgiven by the elders, and will be welcomed back into the fold when he is released.

    As for his victims, and they are quite numerous, the ones still in the org have been told to trust in jehovah, pray a lot, get to all the meetings and be regular in the service. The ones who have left the org don't count.

    As disgusting as the sexual abuse article is, none of us should be surprised by it. To me, it's just another reminder of the kind of organisation I was once involved in, and how glad I am to be well out of it.

  • blindersoff
    blindersoff
    They should be reporting them to the "worldly" authorities, who will delve right into it and dig for clues, they just won't sweep the information under the proverbial rug because there were not 2 or 3 witnesses to the crime.

    Sorry to be a pain, but I'm still stuck on my example (for personal reasons).

    The victim does not need anyones permission to report a crime to the authorities. If they come up with something solid, then the elders have a basis for action & those who are trained to take care of such things will have done the work for them. If the authorities come up with nothing, who can blame the elders for same conclusion? Sorry if this is oversimplifying.

    B

  • blondie
    blondie

    Regardless of the few, very few that make false accusations, the vast majority are true and all should be investigated as such. For every case of false accusation, I can give you 50 that were not. I worked in law enforcement for 8 years, with every sexual abuse case that happened in this area. Remember this is a case of rape, the rape of a child.

    Blindersoff, I can tell that many elders discourage and still do, the reporting of child abuse to the authorities. That may go against the written directives of the WTS (current ones any way), but that doesn't mean the elders won't and haven't disobeyed the WTS authorities as well. The elders are the rank and files first line to the WTS and its authority. Time and again, they are told to go to the elders first, not to check with the CO, DO, or Bethel until they do that.

    I know of case that just happened 3 years ago where a young sister told an elder, who told her just to avoid being alone with her JW father. When the s**t hit the fan a few months later because of another case involving a person outside the family, the elder denied saying this. The other elders took no action because they felt the victims were lying about this elder. This was a big reason why I stopped associating with the WTS. I have seen this same pattern over the last 35 years, starting with me, my younger sisters and brothers, and then this sister despite the so-called up-to-date information provided to the elders. They just don't follow it. When my husband attended elder school, the mantra was "Call Legal" over and over and over, but they didn't. (But then the WTS didn't discipline the elders who disobeyed their directive either.)

    The elders have the power to trash an individual's or family's standing in the congregation, so there is that psychological pressure. The elders may not say NO but then they don't say YES either, to the individual or family reporting it to the authorities.

  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee

    The elders simply say that going to the authorities would bring "shame on Jehovah's name" or on the congregation. That alone inhibits people from taking problems outside the congregation.

    Then they add that a brother (or any JW) should follow a prescribed method to resolve differences between them and another brother. So first talk to the person you think has done you harm. Then if he doesn't listen take a couple of others to act as witnesses to the working out of a settlement. And if that doesn't work go to the elders.

    Now really, what child who is already feeling threatened and has been abused is going to approach the abuser and say "I want to work out a solution to the problem you have caused." And the abuser says "I don't know what you are talking about. You wanted it" or "nothing happenned." Then this child has to approach a couple of other people and the abuser says "I didn't do it" so the child is supposed togo to the elders.

    Now just what do you think she expects him to say when the elders get called in?

    In my experience I didn't tell because I knew nothing would be done and that my mother would send me out of the family. I KNEW it.

    And when she caught him IN THE ACT she did the exact thing I KNEW she would do. I was sent to foster care.

    Abused kids are smart. They know they are trapped. They know they can't go anywhere else except to the elders. Then they know the elders will take an adult's word over theirs.

    An abuser has prepared a defence from the moment he touches that child inappropriately. He knows exactly what to say. And he lets the child know that no one will listen to her. My father said things like

    • they will blame you and send you to jail (juvenile detention)
    • they will think you are a liar cuz no one believes kids and you always lie (which I didn't)
    • I will kill you if you tell
    • I will kill your mother
    • finding out will kill your mother
    • I will kill your sister... brother... dog... whatever
    • you are damaged goods - spoiled and dirty

    My father was not the first of my abusers and he was never a JW but this was the type of thing that I and most victims heard on a regualr basis. When my step-father started abusing me he pretty much said the same things. I knew there was no where else to go.

    Most of the victims I knew or worked with had a pretty clear knowledge of how their family worked and who got the blame for most things that happened.

    Back to the JWs. What child in the face of the above is willing to confront the abuser if she thinks nothing will happen. Some victims know full well if they tell and he denies it she is even worse off than if she said nothing. And most victims would rather endure the abuse than deal with elders, not being believed, not getting help and not breaking up or losing their family. And of course we would have to add in the fears that absolutely no one will believe accusations against an elder who is admired by all.

    It really doesn't take much for a child to be silenced about their abuse.

    And what chance for justice do they have

    NONE

  • blindersoff
    blindersoff

    Blondie & Lady Lee,

    Thanks for sharing that info. You make some very enlightning points. I was an elder for decades (mostly in small congregations) , but I must admit that I have no experience with any of this. The only case I ever heard of was in another cong & the guy (not a servant) was DF.

    B

  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee

    Blindersoff

    I'm glad to hear you never had to deal with one of these cases. There are so many of us here that I am often surprised although I know I shouldn't be.

    Another point I want to make is that it isn't only girls who get abused. We have several male survivors here on this board.

    And the abusers are ot only men. More and more people are stepping forward to say they have been abused by women or that women were involved in the abuse in some manner.

    The WTS lawyers and PR dept want the world to think that the society "abhors" the sexual abuse of children. Well my response to that is that if they abhor it so much they should take their heads out of the sand and do something about it instead of say they have a policy to the press and then use another policy in real life.

  • Pistoff
    Pistoff
    Yea, this is old information and not the new way of dealing with child molestation accusations. The matter is now (where required by law) referred to the police. This is in all likelyhood done as a legal protection. It makes me ill to think about the lack of love that went into such a statement as above.

    Don't think for one minute that this is true. The WT may state that they encourage the elders to call the police, but for a fact the VERY first thing the elders do is call the legal dept.

    The elders will do everything they can to discourage the victim from doing anything about it other than forgive and put it in jehovahs hands.

    If we have learned anything it is that the WT pursues a double track with this matter: what the public and the rank and file reads, and what the CO's tell the elders to do, reference the handwritten notes put into elder's manuals in the 90's.

    The WT lies, lies, lies about sex abuse matters. I have seen the transcripts of the lawsuits brought by sisters against an abuser; in it the society denies that they get their primary source of monetary support from the congregations, they deny that they control the preaching work, they deny that they provide the guidance for the elder bodies in judicial matters.

    THEY LIE CONSTANTLY AND WITH NO CONSCIENCE.

    Good thing they have the "truth", eh?

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