Russell; an unoticed freemason ?

by chasson 27 Replies latest jw friends

  • chasson
    chasson
    I thought Larc meant that the current leadership spoke negatively about
    Masonry. Not a 'misinterpretation' but a simple misunderstanding. Huge
    difference. I do recall seeing a jpeg image of an article or two (don't
    remember where... maybe Randy's site) where Russell spoke of "his Masonic
    brothers" or something like that.

    hi,

    No, no and no.

    I will translate my first page about russell and masonry quoting Russell own's word. For him Masonry was a part of Babylon the Great, he has made some stupid fault when talking about masonry for example, he thought that because some mason's leader was called "Worshipfull Mason", the mason worshipped them. in fact this is nothing more than an honorific's title.

    Well, i will try a traduction.

    Bye

    Charles

  • chasson
    chasson
    because OBVIOUS HORSESHIT like "Russell was a Mason" only serves the WTS's objective of painting XJWs as NUTS and LIARS.

    True madapostate,

    this is why i am very concerned too. unfortunately, some answers are in the Watchtower's archive.

    Bye

    Charles

  • teejay
    teejay

    ... I don't want to be conclusive.

    Thank you, Charles.

    When it comes to Russell and the infancy of the WTS, we can prove many
    things conclusively. The written record and historical evidence is quite clear.

    Was Russell a Mason? I didn't and still don't think it can be proven
    conclusively whether he was or not. Period. That being so,
    I personally will refrain from saying that he absolutely was or was not a
    Mason. Others can do what they wish... I have no problem with that.

    What I DO have a problem with is others (still here, MadApostate? And
    you are quite mad, you understand) beating me over the head when they are
    in no better position than I am but wish to either browbeat me into their
    way of thinking or attempt to belittle or condescend when I choose to see
    things differently. It was almost as if HE had traveled back to the early
    1900s and discovered hidden truths, unavailable to the rest of us. Not so.

    Keep us posted, Chasson, on your further research. I say again, "Good work."

  • lauralisa
    lauralisa

    teejay:

    Echo your words and thank you for articulating the points in your most recent post

    It's only water from a stranger's tear (Peter Gabriel)

  • MadApostate
    MadApostate

    TJ:

    Do you know who your biological Mother and Father are, CONCLUSIVELY?

  • teejay
    teejay

    No. I only believe what I HAVE BEEN TOLD. What about you?

  • chasson
    chasson
    Was Russell a Mason? I didn't and still don't think it can be proven
    conclusively whether he was or not. Period. That being so,
    I personally will refrain from saying that he absolutely was or was not a
    Mason. Others can do what they wish... I have no problem with that.

    Hi TJ,

    when i said that i don't want to be conclusive, i think that Russell was not a mason. In fact, he could be a mason but not an important, or have only friends mason, well i msut translate my other page, to show why i think (but i can't definitively proved) that Russell was not a mason.

    Bye

    Charles

  • chasson
    chasson

    Hi all,

    The only "connection" (and it isn't technically a connection), between Russell and the Masons is that both had/have interests in the Egyptian Pyramids. Russell was one of the most prominent "pyramidologists", with other prominent "pyramidologists" (Morton Edgar) also being Watchtower Society Officers.

    Untrue, they are different kind of pyramidolgy. See the James Penton article.

    The Russell's pyramidology was a "christian" pyramidology in connection with second adventism (piazzi syth wrote in Barbour's periodical)

    Now, pyramid is not an important masonic's symbol. This is a urban legend. The only masonry who could be interested in pyramidology was the Memphis-Misraïm Rite, but there was none in Allegheny. This movement beginned in France, and have in France at this best time only an hundred of mason. It crossed the Atlantic and has perhaps more mason in USA, but there was no Memphis Misraïm lodge at the time of Russell.

    Bye

    Charles

  • MadApostate
    MadApostate

    Charles:

    Exactly what is in my statement that is "untrue"?

    If you are saying that American Masons have not used pyramid/Egyptian imagery, then you have never seen a US $1 note, the Wash Monument, etc., etc.

  • chasson
    chasson

    hi madapostate,

    see

    http://www.masonicinfo.com/eye.htm

    Bye

    Charles

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