Comments You Will Not Hear at the 11-20-05 WT Study (Haughty)

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    Comments You Will Not Hear at the 11-20-05 WT Study (October 15, 2005 issue) Review comments will be in redWT material from today's WT will be in black
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    BEWARE OF DEVELOPING A HAUGHTY HEART

    "God opposes the haughty ones."-JAMES 4:6.


    Opening Comments

    Learning from brothers in writing and service departments that often the articles written in the magazines and talks at the conventions are meant to address specific problems - and the problem isn't usually readily apparent in the title or general subject of the talk/article. (ITIS)

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/94334/1.ashx

    What problem do you think this article is really addressing? Apostates? Disobedient rank and file publishers who are sending their children to college? Is it an coincidence that this study article is right after the one on not sending your children to college?

    JWs are not obeying Jehovah the WTS?

    START OF ARTICLE

    HAS some event ever caused your heart to swell with pride? Most of us have
    experienced that pleasurable sensation. Our capacity for feeling a measure of
    pride is not bad. For example, when a Christian couple read a school report
    about their daughter's good behavior and hard work, their faces likely glow with
    warm satisfaction over her accomplishments. The apostle Paul and his companions
    took pride in a new congregation that they had helped to establish, for the
    brothers faithfully endured persecution.-1 Thessalonians 1: 1, 6; 2:19, 20; 2
    Thessalonians 1:1, 4.

    Our capacity for feeling a measure of pride is not bad.

    But the WTS will tell you what is proper pride.

    Christian couple--only JWs

    Daughter's good behavior--for once the WTS is not gender biased and pointing to a son.

    School report--with a future of getting a part-time job and pioneering, eventually marrying

    (2 Thessalonians 1:4) . . .. As a result we ourselves take pride in YOU among the congregations of God because of YOUR endurance and faith in all YOUR persecutions and the tribulations that YOU are bearing.

    2 From the foregoing examples, we can see that pride may imply a sense of
    delight that comes from some act or possession. Frequently, though, pride
    reflects unseemly self-esteem, a feeling of superiority because of one's
    abilities, appearance, wealth, or rank. It is often displayed in arrogance of
    demeanor, a haughty bearing. Such pride is definitely something that we as
    Christians should guard against. Why? Because we have an inborn tendency to
    selfishness that we inherited from our forefather Adam. (Genesis 8:21) As a
    result, our hearts can easily mislead us into feeling proud for the wrong
    reasons. For instance, Christians must resist feeling pride over race, wealth,
    education, natural abilities, or work performance in comparison with others.
    Pride that arises from such things is improper and is displeasing to Jehovah.
    Jeremiah 9:23; Acts 10:34, 35; 1 Corinthians 4:7; Galatians 5:26; 6:3, 4.

    Frequently, though, pride reflects unseemly self-esteem, a feeling of superiority because of one's abilities, appearance, wealth, or rank. It is often displayed in arrogance of demeanor, a haughty bearing

    But what if other JWs elevate another person because of their abilities, appearance, wealth, or rank?

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/94334/1.ashx

    The creature worship of the Governing Body by Bethelites and visitors..
    You move move ahead ENTIRELY by who you know and who you make alliances with.

    From our forefather Adam--not Eve?

    Proud for the wrong reasons...race, wealth, education, natural abilities, or work performance--repetition for emphasis in the same paragraph

    Christians--only JWs

    In comparison with others--measuring a brother's qualifications to be a MS or elder by comparing his hours to the national average.

    Galatians 6:3,4

    *** w04 8/15 p. 24 Tired but Not Tiring Out ***

    Some have felt under pressure (Translation: Some have been pressured by others including elders) to keep pace with what others do in the Christian ministry.

    3 There is another reason for rejecting improper pride. If we allow such to grow
    in our heart, it can develop into a very despicable form of pride called
    haughtiness. What is haughtiness? In addition to feeling superior, a haughty
    person looks down on others, those whom he or she views as inferior. (Luke 18:9;
    John 7:47-49) Jesus listed "haughtiness" along with other wicked traits that
    come "out of the heart" and "defile a man." (Mark 7:20-23) Christians can see
    how vital it is to avoid developing a haughty heart.

    Improper pride...haughtiness...feeling superior...looks down on others...views as inferior

    Proper pride?

    *** w81 1/15 p. 18 It Pays to Swallow Your Pride ***

    It doubtless could be said that there are times when family members may take proper pride in the qualities, virtues or achievements of one another, as when a husband is proud of his wife's cooking. Or parents may be proud that children they have reared make a choice of full-time service to their God.

    *** g98 2/22 pp. 25-26 What About Racial Pride? ***

    mean that pride is inherently bad? Not necessarily. The Bible shows that there is a place for the proper kind of pride. When the apostle Paul wrote to Christians in Thessalonica, he said: "We ourselves take pride in you among the congregations of God." (2 Thessalonians 1:4) Similarly, having at least a measure of self-worth is healthy and normal. (Romans 12:3) So it is not wrong in itself to take some pride in one's race, family, language, color, or place of origin. Certainly God would not require that we be ashamed of such things. When the apostle Paul was confused with an Egyptian criminal, he did not hesitate to say: "I am, in fact, a Jew, of Tarsus in Cilicia, a citizen of no obscure city."-Acts 21:39.

    He or she--another gender appropriate phrase hinting that many haughty ones are women in the congregation

    Other wicked traits

    (Mark 7:21-22) . . ., injurious reasonings issue forth: fornications, thieveries, murders, 22 adulteries, covetings, acts of wickedness, deceit, loose conduct, an envious eye, blasphemy, haughtiness, unreasonableness. . .

    I doubt that I would put haughtiness too high on the list above.

    Christians--only JWs

    4 You can be helped to avoid haughtiness by considering some Bible accounts of
    haughty ones. You will thus be in a better position to detect improper feelings
    of pride that might reside within you or that may develop in time. This will
    help you to reject thoughts or feelings that could lead to a haughty heart. As a
    result, you will not be affected negatively when God acts in line with his warning: "I shall remove from the midst of you your haughtily exultant ones; and you will never again be
    haughty in my holy mountain."-Zephaniah 3:11.

    OT--Bible accounts

    Improper feelings of pride that "might" reside within you

    Reject thoughts or feelings--the WTS is going to tell you how to think and feel

    Not be affected negatively when God acts...remove from the midst of you...haughty

    Haughty = apostate?

    God Deals With Haughty Ones

    5 You can also see Jehovah's view of haughtiness in the way he dealt with such
    powerful rulers as Pharaoh. There can be no doubt that Pharaoh had a haughty
    heart. Viewing himself as a god to be worshipped, he despised his slaves, the
    Israelites. Consider his reaction to the request that Israel be allowed to go
    into the wilderness to "celebrate a festival" to Jehovah. "Who is Jehovah, so
    that I should obey his voice to send Israel away?" was Pharaoh's haughty
    reply.-Exodus 5:1, 2.

    OT--NON JEWISH--RULER

    PHARAOH (EGYPTIAN--1st world power)

    Viewing himself as a god to be worshipped...who is Jehovah

    6 After Pharaoh had experienced six plagues, Jehovah told Moses to ask Egypt's
    ruler: "Are you still behaving haughtily against my people in not sending them
    away?" (Exodus 9:17) Moses now announced the seventh plague-hail that devastated
    the land. Once the Israelites were free to leave after the tenth plague, Pharaoh
    changed his mind and pursued them. Finally, Pharaoh and his armies were trapped
    in the Red Sea. Imagine what they must have thought as the waters closed in upon
    them! What was the fruitage of Pharaoh's haughtiness? His elite troops said:
    "Let us flee from any contact with Israel, because Jehovah certainly fights for
    them against the Egyptians."-Exodus 14:25.

    Behaving haughtily against my people--not against God

    Imagine what they must have thought--a technique the WTS uses in its articles and dramas adding to the Bible

    7 Humiliation at Jehovah's hand also came to other haughty rulers. One was
    Sennacherib, king of Assyria. (Isaiah 36:1-4, 20; 37:3638) Eventually, Assyria
    was conquered by the Babylonians, but two haughty Babylonian kings were
    humiliated too. Recall the feast that King Belshazzar had during which he and
    his royal guests drank wine out of vessels taken from Jehovah's temple, praising
    Babylon's gods. Suddenly, the fingers of a man's hand appeared and wrote a
    message on the wall. Asked to explain the mysterious writing, the prophet Daniel
    reminded Belshazzar: "The Most High God himself gave to Nebuchadnezzar your
    father the kingdom ... But when his heart became haughty. .., he was brought
    down from the throne of his kingdom, and his own dignity was taken away from
    him.... As for you, his son Belshazzar, you have not humbled your heart,
    although you knew all this." (Daniel 5:3, 18, 20, 22) That very night, the
    Medo-Persian army conquered Babylon, and Belshazzar was killed.-Daniel 5:30, 31.

    OT--NON JEWISH--RULER

    SENNACHERIB (ASSYRIA--2nd world power)

    NEBUCHADNEZZAR AND BELSHAZZAR (BABYLON--3rd world power)

    his heart became haughty...brought down...not humbled your heart

    3 examples of rulers--is this talking about elders in the congregation?

    8 Think, too, of other haughty men who despised Jehovah's people: the Philistine
    giant Goliath, the Persian Prime Minister Haman, and King Herod Agrippa, who
    ruled the province of Judaea. Because of their haughtiness, those three men
    suffered a humiliating death at God's hand. (1 Samuel 17:42-51; Esther 3:5, 6;
    7:10; Acts 12:1-3, 2123) How Jehovah dealt with those haughty men underlines
    this truth: "Pride is before a crash, and a haughty spirit before stumbling."
    (Proverbs 16:18) Indeed, there can be no doubt that "God opposes the haughty
    ones." James 4:6.

    OT--NON JEWISH

    GOLIATH
    HAMAN

    NT--NON JEWISH

    AGRIPPA (Edomite)

    Suffering a humiliating death at God's hand (directly?)

    9 In contrast with the haughty rulers of Egypt, Assyria, and Babylon, the king
    of Tyre at one time proved helpful to God's people. During the reigns of Kings
    David and Solomon, he provided skilled craftsmen and materials for royal
    buildings and for God's temple. (2 Samuel 5:11; 2 Chronicles 2: 11-16) Sadly, in
    time, the Tyrians turned against Jehovah's people. What caused that
    development?-Psalm 83:3-7; Joel 3:4-6; Amos 1:9, 10.

    OT--NON JEWISH--RULER

    KING OF TYRE

    At one time proved helpful to God's people...turned against Jehovah's people

    Blurb on page 23: Pharaoh's haughtiness led to his humiliation

    "Your Heart Became Haughty"

    10 Jehovah inspired his prophet Ezekiel to expose and condemn Tyre's dynasty of
    kings. That message addressed to "the king of Tyre" contains expressions that
    fit both the Tyrian dynasty and the original traitor, Satan, who "did not stand
    fast in the truth." (Ezekiel 28:12; John 8:44) Satan was once a loyal spirit
    creature in Jehovah's organization of heavenly sons. Jehovah God gave indication
    through Ezekiel of the basic cause of the defection of both the Tyrian dynasty
    and Satan:

    Fit both Tyrian dynasty and the original traitor, Satan

    Satan was once a loyal spirit creature in Jehovah's organization = "apostate"

    *** w00 5/1 p. 9 Firmly Uphold Godly Teaching ***

    Today, there is no great apostasy taking place among God's people. Still, a few individuals have left our ranks, and some among them are bent on defaming Jehovah's Witnesses by spreading lies and misinformation. A few work with other groups in organized resistance to pure worship. In doing so, they side with the very first apostate, Satan.

    basic cause of the defection

    11 "In Eden, the garden of God, you proved to be. Every precious stone was your
    covering ... You are the anointed cherub that is covering ... You were faultless
    in your ways from the day of your being created until unrighteousness was found
    in you. Because of the abundance of your sales goods they filled the midst of
    you with violence, and you began to sin. And I shall ... destroy you, O cherub
    that is covering ... Your heart became haughty because of your beauty. You
    brought your wisdom to ruin on account of your beaming splendor." (Ezekiel
    28:13-17) Yes, haughtiness moved Tyre's kings to violence against Jehovah's
    people. Tyre became exceedingly wealthy as a commercial center and famous for
    its beautiful products. (Isaiah 23:8, 9) Tyre's kings came to think too much of
    themselves, and they began to oppress God's people.

    Eden...anointed cherub that is covering = Satan

    abundance of your sales goods = wealthy = commercial = famous = haughty = think too much of themselves

    Gifts in men...mighty men...glorious ones = all phrases the WTS and elders apply to themselves

    12 Similarly, the spirit creature who became Satan once had the wisdom needed to
    fulfill any assignment God gave him. Instead of being thankful, he became
    "puffed up with pride" and began to despise God's way of ruling. (1 Timothy 3:6)
    He thought so much of himself that he began to crave the worship of Adam and
    Eve. This wicked desire became fertile and gave birth to sin. (James 1:14, 15)
    Satan seduced Eve into eating the fruit of the only tree that God had ruled out.
    Then, Satan used her to get Adam to eat of the forbidden fruit. (Genesis 3:1-6)
    Thus the first human pair rejected God's right to rule over them and, in effect,
    became worshippers of Satan. His haughtiness knows no bounds. He has tried to
    seduce all intelligent creatures in heaven and on earth, including Jesus Christ,
    into worshipping him in rejection of Jehovah's sovereignty.-Matthew 4: 8-10;
    Revelation 12:3, 4, 9.

    Assignment God gave him = assignments that the WTS gives JWs?

    despise God's way of ruling--or the WTS way of ruling

    (Satan)...crave the worship of Adam and Eve--what does the WTS teach re worship and Satan?

    *** g89 1/8 p. 5 Part 1: 4026-2370 B.C.E.-Religious Disunity-How It Began ***

    Thus man moved out from under theocratic rule and established his own standards as to good and evil. By their independent actions, Adam and Eve set mankind on a course that would result in many different religions, all of them constituting false worship in contrast with the true worship practiced by Jehovah's faithful witnesses down through history. Directly or indirectly, the beneficiary of that false worship has been the great Adversary, Satan. Thus, the apostle Paul was able to write: "The things which the nations sacrifice they sacrifice to demons, and not to God; and I do not want you to become sharers with the demons." He went on to show that there are only two forms of worship, saying: "You cannot be drinking the cup of Jehovah and the cup of demons; you cannot be partaking of 'the table of Jehovah' and the table of demons."-1 Corinthians 10:20, 21.

    13 You can thus see that haughtiness originates with Satan; it is the basic
    cause of sin, suffering, and corruption in the world today. As "god of this
    system of things," Satan continues to promote improper feelings of pride and
    haughtiness. (2 Corinthians 4:4) He knows that his time is short, so he wages
    war against true Christians. His goal is to turn them away from God, to become
    lovers of themselves, self-assuming, and haughty. The Bible foretold that such
    selfish traits would be common in these "last days." -2 Timothy 3:1, 2,
    footnote; Revelation 12: 12, 17.

    Haughtiness origintates with Satan--not Adam? (see paragraph 2)

    You can thus see that haughtiness...is the basic cause of sin, suffering, and corruption

    No I missed that segue into haughtiness being the "basic" cause.

    His time is short--the end is near, VERY SOON NOW

    *** w04 2/15 p. 7 Is Religion at the Root of Mankind's Problems? ***

    So it is only partly true that religion lies at the root of all of mankind's problems. False religion does. Yet, God intends to remove all false religion very soon now.

    *** w99 4/1 p. 19 Life After Death-What Does the Bible Say? ***

    Very soon now, Jehovah God is going to intervene in human affairs and wipe out wickedness from the earth.

    True Christians--only JWs

    14 For his part, Jesus Christ boldly exposed the rotten fruitage caused by
    Satan's haughtiness. On at least three occasions and in the presence of self-righteous enemies, Jesus laid down the rule by which Jehovah deals with mankind: "Everyone that exalts himself will be humiliated, but he that humbles himself will be exalted."-Luke 14:11; 18:14; Matthew 23:12.

    Rule=everyone that exalts himself will be humiliated, but he that humbles himself will be exalted.

    Who was Jesus speaking to?

    (Matthew 23:2) 2 "The scribes and the Pharisees . . .
    (Luke 14:2-3) . . .. 3 So in response Jesus spoke to those versed in the Law and to the Pharisees. . .
    (Luke 17:20) 20 But on being asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God was coming. . (18:.9) But he spoke this illustration also to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous and who considered the rest as nothing:

    JEWISH RELIGIOUS LEADERS AND TEACHERS
    THOSE VERSED IN THE LAW

    Guard Your Heart Against Haughtiness

    15 You may have noted that the examples of haughtiness mentioned above involved
    prominent men. Does that mean that ordinary people are not prone to becoming
    haughty? Definitely not. Consider an incident that occurred in Abraham's
    household. The patriarch had no son to be his heir, and his wife, Sarah, was
    beyond the age of childbearing. It was customary for a man in Abraham's
    situation to take a second wife and have children. God tolerated such marriages
    because it was not yet his time to reestablish his original standard of marriage
    among true worshippers.-Matthew 19:3-9.

    Prominent men--like the GB, Bethelites in high administrative positions, branch overseers, DOs, COs, elders?

    Ordinary people...prone to becoming haughty

    The patriarch had no son to be his heir, and his wife, Sarah, was beyond the age of childbearing. It was customary for a man in Abraham's situation to take a second wife and have children. God tolerated such marriages

    But why would God tolerate this situation when he had promised that he would provide Abraham with descendants...and didn't Abraham trust in that promise?

    (Genesis 12:1-2) . . .; 2 and I shall make a great nation out of you . . .

    16 At his wife's urging, Abraham agreed to produce a potential heir through
    Sarah's Egyptian maidservant, Hagar. As a secondary wife of Abraham, Hagar
    became pregnant. She should have been deeply grateful for her honored status.
    Instead, she allowed her heart to become haughty. The Bible relates: "When she
    became aware that she was pregnant, then her mistress began to be despised in
    her eyes." That attitude caused such strife in Abraham's household that Sarah
    chased Hagar away. But there was a solution to the problem. God's angel
    counseled Hagar: "Return to your mistress and humble yourself under her hand."
    (Genesis 16:4, 9) Evidently, Hagar followed this counsel, adjusted her attitude
    toward Sarah, and became ancestress to a multitude.

    At his wife's urging--right blame it on the wife.

    Maidservant--let's not fool ourselves into thinking Hagar wasn't a slave and had much choice in the matter either.

    *** w99 1/1 p. 16 "Make Your Hearts Firm" ***

    When Sarah reached her mid-70's, she concluded that she was now too old to give Abraham a child. Hence, following a custom of the time, she gave her slave girl Hagar to Abraham, and he had a son by her.

    humble yourself under her hand?
    adjusted her attitude

    Who does Sarah represent in WTS doctrine?

    *** w76 9/1 p. 539 Identifying the Bible's Jerusalems ***

    It is because this "Jerusalem above" (the antitypical "free" woman Sarah) is represented on earth by the "remnant" of Christ's anointed footstep followers

    Blurb on page 24: Hagar's improved status caused her to become haughty

    17 The case of Hagar illustrates that when someone's situation changes for the
    better, haughtiness may result. The lesson is that even a Christian who has
    shown a good heart in serving God can become haughty upon gaining wealth or
    authority. That attitude can also develop if others praise him for his success,
    wisdom, or ability. Yes, a Christian should be alert to keep haughtiness out of
    his heart. That is especially true if he achieves success or receives more
    responsibility.

    When someone's situation changes for the better...upon gaining wealth or authority

    Since JWs are discouraged from pursuing wealth..how would they gain it?

    a Christian--only JWs

    Praise him for his success, wisdom or ability--definitely no one would praise a woman, does that mean JWs should "suck up" to the CO when he comes?

    His heart (her heart?)

    He (she?) achieves success

    Or receives more responsibility--only responsibility sisters get is the privilege of looking after incontinent older JWs

    I remember an occasion when an older brother needed help and none of the men in the congregation would give him a bath and he was embarrassed to have one of the sisters do it. The elders helped him get nursing help through a non-profit organizaiton.

    Sounds like the elders are the "haughty" candidates in this paragraph.

    *** w76 6/15 p. 380 How Humility Can Safeguard You ***

    The "sheep" can easily be stumbled and turned away from the Christian congregation if the elders arrogate to themselves special privileges, seek prestige or prominence, or in other ways show a proud, haughty spirit.

    18 The most powerful reason for avoiding haughtiness is God's view of this
    trait. His Word states: "Haughty eyes and an arrogant heart, the lamp of the
    wicked ones, are sin." (Proverbs 21:4) Interestingly, the Bible in particular
    warns Christians "who are rich in the present system of things" not to be
    "high-minded," or "haughty." (1 Timothy 6: 17, footnote; Deuteronomy 8:11-17)
    Those Christians who are not rich should avoid having "an envious eye," and they
    should remember that haughtiness can develop in anyone-rich or poor.-Mark
    7:21-23; James 4:5.

    Most powerful reason for avoiding...God's view

    If humans don't see them, many JWs don't care what God's view is, let alone the WTS. That is why this article was written...too many JWs are not "listening" to the "suggestions" of the WTS.

    (Ezekiel 8:12) 12 And he proceeded to say to me: "Have you seen, O son of man, what the elderly ones of the house of Israel are doing in the darkness, each one in the inner rooms of his showpiece? For they are saying, 'Jehovah is not seeing us. Jehovah has left the land.'"
    (Ezekiel 9:9) 9 So he said to me: "The error of the house of Israel and Judah is very, very great, and the land is filled with bloodshed and the city is full of crookedness; for they have said, 'Jehovah has left the land, and Jehovah is not seeing.'

    Christians--only JWs

    Rich in the present system of things--how are the rich JWs in your congregation treated? Do they get special privileges? Special treatment judicially?

    Haughtiness...rich or poor--but only counsel the poor because we don't want to tick off the rich ones and have them stop giving money.

    19 Haughtiness along with other wicked traits can ruin a good relationship with
    Jehovah. Consider, for example, the first part of King Uzziah's reign: "He kept
    doing what was right in Jehovah's eyes ... And he continually tended to search
    for God . . . ; and, in the days of his searching for Jehovah, the true God made
    him prosperous." (2 Chronicles 26:4, 5) Sadly, though, King Uzziah spoiled his
    good record, for "his heart became haughty even to the point of causing ruin."
    He came to think so much of himself that he entered the temple to offer up
    incense. When the priests warned him not to commit this presumptuous act,
    "Uzziah became enraged." As a result, Jehovah struck him with leprosy, and he
    died in God's disfavor.-2 Chronicles 26:16-21.

    Relationship with Jehovah--Where's Jesus?

    OT EXAMPLE--JEWISH--RULER

    UZZIAH

    spoiled his good record...heart became haughty...think so much of himself...presumptuous

    Do you know of elders, COs, and DOs that considered themselves above the Bible?

    That put the words of the publications above what the Bible says?

    Or perhaps the WTS is pointing to JWs that are not anointed (per the WTS) that disagree with the GB/FDS, the spiritual priests in the WTS?

    Blurb on page 25: Hezekiah humbled himself and regained God's favor

    20 You can contrast that with the example of King Hezekiah. On one occasion,
    that king's excellent record was in danger of being spoiled because "his heart
    became haughty." Happily, "Hezekiah humbled himself for the haughtiness of his
    heart" and regained God's favor. (2 Chronicles 32:25, 26) Notice that the cure
    for Hezekiah's haughtiness was humility. Yes, humility is the opposite of
    haughtiness. Therefore, in the next article, we will consider how we can
    cultivate and maintain Christian humility.

    OT EXAMPLE--JEWISH--RULER

    KING HEZEKIAH

    excellent record in danger of being spoiled...heart became haughty

    Cure was humility

    21 May we not forget, though, all the bad fruitage that has been produced by
    haughtiness. Since "God opposes the haughty ones," let us be firmly resolved to
    reject feelings of improper pride. As we strive to be humble Christians, we can
    look forward to surviving God's great day, when haughty ones and their fruitage
    will be removed from the earth. Then "the haughtiness of the earthling man must
    bow down, and the loftiness of men must become low; and Jehovah alone must be
    put on high in that day."-Isaiah 2:17.

    Humble Christians--only JWs

    (CARROT) Surviving God's great day--where over 6 billion men, women and children will die forever even without a personal witness about the kingdom. Haughty babies, shame on them.

    Concluding Comments

    This is only the introductory article on haughtiness. Next week, the WTS really slams it to the congregation.

    The flogging will continue until morale improves.

    Love, Blondie. For those who observe, celebrate, just show up an eat on a day off from work, Happy Turkey Day.

    Points for Meditation

    - How would you describe a haughty person?
    - What is the origin of haughtiness?
    - What can cause a person to become haughty?
    - Why must we guard against haughtiness?

    Questions

    1. Give an example of appropriate feelings of pride.
    2. Why are feelings of pride usually undesirable?
    3. What is haughtiness, and what did Jesus say about it?
    4. How can a consideration of Bible examples of haughtiness help us?
    5, 6. How did Pharaoh show haughtiness, and with what result?
    7. How did rulers of Babylon show haughtiness?
    8. How did Jehovah deal with various haughty ones?
    9. How did the kings of Tyre prove to be traitors?
    10, 11. (a) Who might be compared to the kings of Tyre? (b) What changed the
    Tyrians' attitude toward Israel?
    12. What led to Satan's course of treachery, and what has he continued to do?
    13. What fruitage has haughtiness produced?
    14. According to what rule does Jehovah deal with his intelligent creatures?
    15, 16. What caused Hagar to become haughty?
    17, 18. Why do all of us need to guard against haughtiness?
    19. In what way did Uzziah ruin his good record?
    20. (a) How was King Hezekiah's good record endangered? (b) What will be
    considered in the next article?
    21. To what can humble Christians look forward?

  • Odrade
    Odrade

    Interesting that they followed up the education (or don't do education) article with TWO articles on haughtiness...

  • IP_SEC
    IP_SEC
    You can thus see that haughtiness...is the basic cause of sin, suffering, and corruption

    LOL what happened to "lack of apprieciation for what jehovah gave them" , I always heard that was the basic cause. Isnt haughtiness just a symptom of that.

    - How would you describe a haughty person?

    He questions the society.

    - What can cause a person to become haughty?

    Haughtiness is obviously a result of not being a spiritual person.

    - Why must we guard against haughtiness?

    It can lead to questioning articles like this, getting kicked out of the org, and destroyed next tomorrow, next month, next year, in the next decade.

    5, 6. How did Pharaoh show haughtiness, and with what result?

    By not recognizing the authority of an up-start god.

    How did rulers of Babylon show haughtiness?

    see above

    (a) Who might be compared to the kings of Tyre? (

    Why say "might"? Either it is comparable or it isnt.

    15, 16. What caused Hagar to become haughty?

    Being treated like a second class citizen I'd say.

    21. To what can humble Christians look forward?
    More crap like this article over the next decade
  • stillajwexelder
    stillajwexelder

    Great Work Blondie

  • xjwms
    xjwms

    Blondie

    another fine job

    I really thank you

  • Frogleg
    Frogleg

    Thank you Blondie.

    This article is the quintessential kettle/pot scenario. I'm not sure about the possibility that this is the 2nd chapter of the anti-college campaign, but who knows what goes on in the minds of the JW elite! "Governing Body", hmmmm, what a title, no haughtiness there! Having been astounded by the revelations (mostly from this board) of the infighting, childish jealousies, arbitrariness to the point of being fickle, of the GB and the WT writers, I'd bet even money that this article is a GB clique yammering and preaching at another clique, and outside of the confines of Brooklyn Bunker is a meaningless exercise in "eat what the f*ck I give you!" Of the "examples" cited, were any later than 3000 years ago? Yeah, Pharoh was haughty, so what? Like I can really frigging relate to being a Pharoh. Belshazzar? Oh yeah, I know just what it's like being a king. For the R&F, this article is just tripe, garbage, a complete waste of time.

    But then, gosh, if I'm really subserviant and listen to the Borg and just take what ever the push up my kazoo, why, I'll be better than a pharoh!!!!!

  • Severus
    Severus

    IP comments:

    15, 16. What caused Hagar to become haughty?
    Being treated like a second class citizen I'd say.

    I wonder if the Society wished to paint her just that way. She seems to be a different colour than Sarah.

    Was Hagar black?

  • Severus
    Severus

    Double post

  • Pistoff
    Pistoff

    Still laughing, IP; good stuff.





    Who was haughty? Who is haughty now? What things are they proud of that causes HAUGHTY?

    How do we know if we are haughty?

    The haughty will DIE SOON. MOST IMPORTANT: Who feels slighted if we are not HUMBLE little dubs, if we question or push or go to college and become more educated that the writers of this grade school stuff? HMM?

    That's right, you naughty apostates and faders: you are making the GB feel bad. Don't you know that THEY decide if you should be dissed for going to COLLEGE? (not trade school, not business school, not vo-tech; four years of LIBERAL ARTS) They decide how much education you need?

    They decide what makes haughty; does this not make them.................HAUGHTY?



    Why in the world is it a matter for 2 WT's? Because the GB is declaring lese majeste, that's why.










    Great job blondie; you rock as always.

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    Yuk.

    They make it sound like JW's are one step away from Satan's grasp, always. Whatever happened to building precept upon precept, growing daily more like Christ?

    I studied humility early on in my Christian walk. Maybe because scriptures like the ones used in this study are used by abusers and manipulators to keep their people in their place. Like most bible concepts, there's a balance. People should neither think of themselves as being too lowly to be used of God. There are notable examples where God became angry when someone thought themselves unworthy of His calling.

    Psalm 139:14 (NIV) I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well.

    Genesis 1:26-32 (NIV)

    Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, ...

    So God created man in his own image,

    in the image of God he created him;

    male and female he created them.

    ...God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning-the sixth day.

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