Elders School Notes, Part 7: Trust Us!!!!

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  • xjwms
    xjwms

    Trust the FDS?

    I don't think sooo...

  • Honesty
    Honesty
    "Satan is in an all-out attack to disgrace Jehovah & his organization. But our confidence is not weakened. So when someone says that the organization was in cahoots with the UN - well, that just doesn't make sense."

    So what were they doing while affiliated as an NGO?

  • The Chuckler
    The Chuckler
    "How to demonstrate our trust:

    1) Be a zealous kingdom proclaimer

    2) Study & attend meetings along with family - TIREDNESS IS NOT AN EXCUSE TO MISS MEETINGS

    3) We rarely hear about money at the Kingdom Hall [???] So in a spirit of love, be generous with your valuable things"

    This demonstrates dramatically that it is a cult.

    1) Sell books and get converts

    2) Go to sales meetings

    3) Give us your money.

    Where's the love for the flock in all this?

  • Honesty
    Honesty
    "Is 'Governing Body' a scriptural term? YES. In Hebrews 13:7, 17, the term 'those taking the lead' is footnoted and referes to a term in Greek which literally means 'those who are governors of you' "

    This is another excellent example of 'delighful, correct words of truth' from the faithful discreet slave. Can you say 'twisting the scriptures'?

    Heb 13:17 (NASB1977) Obey your leaders, and submit to them; for they keep watch over your souls, as those who will give an account. Let them do this with joy and not with grief, for this would be unprofitable for you.

    Greek Strong's Number: 758

    Greek Word: arcwn

    Transliteration: archon

    Phonetic Pronunciation: ar'-khone

    Root: present participle of <G757>

    Cross Reference: TDNT - 1:488,81

    Part of Speech: n m

    Vines Words: Chief , Chiefest , Chiefly , Magistrate , Prince , Ruler

    Usage Notes:

    English Words used in KJV:

    ruler 22
    prince 11
    chief 2
    magistrate 1
    chief ruler 1
    [Total Count: 37]

    1) a ruler, commander, chief, leader

    —Strong's Greek & Hebrew Dictionary

    Greek NASB Number: 758

    Greek Word: a[rcwn

    Transliterated Word: archôn
    Root: pres. part. of 757;

    Definition: ruler, chief:--

    List of English Words and Number of Times Used
    authorities (1),
    leaders (1),
    magistrate (1),
    official (2),
    official's (1),
    prince (1),
    ruler (1),
    ruler (13),
    rulers (16).

    —NASB Greek-Hebrew Dictionary


    Heb 13:7 (NASB 1977)

    Remember those who led you, who spoke the word of God to you; and considering the result of their conduct, imitate their faith.

    Greek Word: hgeomai

    Transliteration: hegeomai

    Phonetic Pronunciation: hayg-eh'-om-ahee

    Root: middle voice of a (presumed) strengthened form of <G71>

    Cross Reference: TDNT - 2:907,303

    Part of Speech: v

    Vines Words: Account , Chief , Chiefest , Chiefly , Count , Esteem , Governor , Rule , Think

    Usage Notes:

    English Words used in KJV:

    count 10
    think 4
    esteem 3
    have rule over 3
    be governor 2
    misc 6
    [Total Count: 28]

    1) to lead

    1a) to go before
    1b) to be a leader

    1b1) to rule, command
    1b2) to have authority over
    1b3) a prince, of regal power, governor, viceroy, chief, leading as respects influence, controlling in counsel, overseers or leaders of the churches
    1b4) used of any kind of leader, chief, commander
    1b5) the leader in speech, chief, spokesman

    2) to consider, deem, account, think

    For Synonyms see entry <G5837>

    —Strong's Greek & Hebrew Dictionary

    Greek NASB Number: 2233

    Greek Word: hJgeÈomai

    Transliterated Word: hêgeomai
    Root: from 71;

    Definition: to lead, suppose:--

    List of English Words and Number of Times Used
    chief (1),
    consider (3),
    considered (2),
    considering (1),
    count (4),
    counted (1),
    esteem (1),
    governor (1),
    leader (1),
    leaders (3),
    leading (1),
    led (1),
    regard (5),
    regarded (1),
    Ruler (1),
    thought (2).

    Remember them which have the rule over you ( mnhmoneu>ete tw~n hJgoume>nwn uJmw~n ). Remember, with a view to observing their admonitions. For tw~n hJgoume>nwn those who lead or rule, see on 1Thessalonians 5:13. Used of both civil and ecclesiastical rulers. Clement of Rome, among a great variety of names for church functionaries, has both hJgou>menoi and prohgou>menoi (see Ad Corinth. 1,21). Comp. Acts 15:22. In LXX frequently, of various forms of authority, and in later Greek of bishops and abbots. For "which have the rule," rend. "which had, " etc. —Vincent's Word Studies in the New Testament


    Greek Strong's Number: 2519

    Greek Word: kaqhghth"

    Transliteration: kathegetes

    Phonetic Pronunciation: kath-ayg-ay-tace'

    Root: from a compound of <G2596> and <G2233>

    Cross Reference: Omitted,Omitted

    Part of Speech: n m

    Vines Words: Master

    Usage Notes:

    English Words used in KJV:

    master 3
    [Total Count: 3]

    1) a guide

    2) a master, teacher

    —Strong's Greek & Hebrew Dictionary

    —NASB Greek-Hebrew Dictionary

    Greek NASB Number: 2519

    Greek Word: kaqhghthÈ"

    Transliterated Word: kathêgêtês
    Root: from 2596 and 2233;

    Definition: a teacher:--

    List of English Words and Number of Times Used
    leader (1),
    leaders (1).

    —NASB Greek-Hebrew Dictionary

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    While sitting in the waiting room of a large firm, I noticed a rather thick policy document on the coffee table. It was titled, "Communication is Important to Us." I was grateful for the heads-up before I went in to the interview. Any organization that has to write POLICY DOCUMENT on such a basic requirement HAS A PROBLEM WITH COMMUNICATION.

    I'd say that headquarters has a BIG PROBLEM WITH TRUSTWORTHINESS.

  • GoingGoingGone
    GoingGoingGone
    Any organization that has to write POLICY DOCUMENT on such a basic requirement HAS A PROBLEM WITH COMMUNICATION.

    I'd say that headquarters has a BIG PROBLEM WITH TRUSTWORTHINESS.

    My thoughts exactly.

    GGG

  • Goldminer
    Goldminer

    Why is it I get the feeling those "experiences" are just made up and not true?

    Goldminer

  • freedomlover
    freedomlover

    SIR -

    thank you immensly! This info. is so awesome to see and get knowledge of. Tell me, do you need to get just a little drunk to sit through hours of this stuff?!

    Thanks again! FreedomLover

  • twinflame
    twinflame

    I may be giving away my age, but every time I see FDS, I think of Feminine Deodorant Spray. Which would be most beneficial?

  • Confession
    Confession

    Twinflame, believe it or not, I think the same thing when I see those letters! LOL!

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