Comments You Will Not Hear at the 12-18-05 WT Study (Hosea part 1)

by blondie 22 Replies latest watchtower bible

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  What proof that Gomer was a virgin?

  First read the scripture:

  (Hosea 1:2) 2

  There was a start of the word of Jehovah by Ho·se´a, and Jehovah proceeded to say to Ho·se´a: "Go, take to yourself a wife of fornication and children of fornication, because by fornication the land positively turns from following Jehovah."

  Sounds pretty straight forward to me. The order from God was to find a cheating wife, not a virgin. But the meagre explanation below contradicts this:

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  Insight Vol 1 p. 1147 Hosea, Book of

  Hosea’s Wife and the Children. At Jehovah’s command, Hosea took to himself "a wife of fornication and children of fornication." (Ho 1:2) This does not mean that the prophet married a prostitute or an immoral woman already having illegitimate children. It indicates that the woman would become adulterous and have such children after her marriage to the prophet. Hosea married Gomer, who "bore to him a son," Jezreel. (1:3, 4) Gomer later gave birth to a daughter, Lo-ruhamah, and thereafter to a son named Lo-ammi, both evidently being fruits of her adultery, as no personal reference is made to the prophet in connection with their births. (1:6, 8, 9) Lo-ruhamah means "[She Was] Not Shown Mercy," and the meaning of Lo-ammi is "Not My People," these names indicating Jehovah’s disapproval of wayward Israel. On the other hand, the name of the firstborn child "Jezreel," meaning "God Will Sow Seed," is applied to the people favorably in a restoration prophecy.—2:21-23.

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  No more proof needed for "honest-hearted" JW's worldwide.
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  What proof that Gomer was a virgin?

  Gomer?...Gomer??? What parent in their right mind would name their 'daughter' GOMER?????????
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  ffoeg

  This prophecy also had a fulfillment in 1919 C.E., when the remnant of spiritual Israel was freed from "Babylon the Great."
  

  NO PROOF. And the WTS was still celebrating birthdays, Christmas, using the cross in worship, emblazoned on the cover of the WT, using pyramidology to calculated Bible prophecy until 1936.

  Remnant…with the companions, who hope to live forever on earth—CARROT

  
  Blondie,

  Enjoyed reading your post however, will take the liberty of expanding on the CARROT.

  It's not even a real Carrot!.

  It is the "covenant with death" a lie mentioned by both Isaiah and also the Apostle Paul.

  Explained in the following excerpt from a letter I have been trying to send to as many present and former Jehovah's Witnessess as possible:

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  The thought that his faithful slave had passed inspection in 1919 was therefore another unrighteous deception and Jehovah’s people have been operating in error since then. Why would our God, Jehovah allow his witnesses to be governed by an evil slave for so long? The scripture at 2nd Thessalonians Chapter 2 explains the reason why and also who is really behind the deception:
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  YOU rulers of this people who are in Jerusalem: 15 Because YOUmen have said: "We have concluded a covenant with Death; and with She´ol we have effected a vision; the overflowing flash flood, in case it should pass through, will not come to us, for we have made a lie our refuge and in falsehood we have concealed ourselves"; 16 therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah has said: "Here I am laying as a foundation in Zion a stone, a tried stone, the precious corner of a sure foundation. No one exercising faith will get panicky. 17 And I will make justice the measuring line and righteousness the leveling instrument; and the hail must sweep away the refuge of a lie, and the waters themselves will flood out the very place of concealment. 18 And YOUR covenant with Death will certainly be dissolved, and that vision of YOURS with She´ol will not stand. The overflowing flash flood, when it passes through YOU must also become for it a trampling place.
  
  
  
  falsehood) is "the covenant with Death".
  
  
  
  have told us a lie.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Lord and King Jesus Christ only after he is tried (resurrected). The waters that flood out the very place of concealment are truths coming from the spirit of his mouth. The discerning reader should realise this cannot have application to Isaiah’s contemporaries and has never had any application since our King Jesus Christ’s resurrection, until now.

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  The WTBTS however, have convinced miilions that this "convenant with death" had application to Isaiah's contemporaries thereby very insidiously misrepresenting the true meaning of the scriptures. For obvious reasons the WTBTS do not want anyone asking why it is Jesus Christ who dissolves this "covenant with death" otherwise they may need to invent yet another ridiculous story in order to keep them off their trail of deceit.

  regards

  ffoeg