Raising Kids to be Cult Members!!!

by lisaBObeesa 29 Replies latest jw friends

  • lisaBObeesa
    lisaBObeesa

    In another thread, there is a discussion about young people leaving the JWs at a rate of something like 88%. We see the rules given to the ‘sheep’ for raising their children and we shake our heads saying, “Don’t they get it? What is wrong with the Org that it can’t see how they are treating the youth? Don’t they see that this way has never worked, and will continue to not work, and the kids will keep leaving at an alarming rate?”

    I believe that the GB knows exactly what they are doing, and they have a reason. “Why, you ask. “What possible reason do they have for encouraging parents to raise their children in such a way that most of them LEAVE?” Why? Because it is not about the ones who leave!

    In order to explain, I must explain a little basic Child Development theory, as it relates to why kids raised in the Borg often leave. Then we can address the real issue: the 12% that stay.

    **From now on, when I talk about ‘JW parents’ I mean the parents that follow Borg rules to the letter. And by 'Borg rules' I mean the real JW rules (no dating, no socializing outside the Borg, no sports, etc. You know the ones).**

    Reasons kids leave the Borg:

    #1. Adolescents is the time when abstract thought emerges, and the beginnings of relativist reasoning are possible. Once you are old enough to realize that everyone in the ‘world’ is NOT BAD, the JWs loose a major amount of power. This realization is quickly followed by the realization that 99% of the JW ‘rules’ are totally stupid. There goes a bunch more of the Borg’s control.

    #2 The developmental needs of adolescents are not met in the Borg. Each stage of human development has certain needs, and these needs must be met for development to proceed in a healthy way. Infants need to learn to trust and to feel secure. Preschoolers need to practice doing things on their own (‘NO! Let ME do it! I can pour the milk myself!) School age kids need to DO stuff (bike ride, build models, play house, whatever) JWs can raise very developmentally healthy children, up to this point.
    But adolescents have needs, too. They NEED to try out identities (am I a preppy person? A rocker? An athlete?). They NEED to feel connected to a wide variety of peer groups to do it. They try out different clothes, music and friends. They need to question their beliefs and look for reasons for beliefs. JW parents who insist on following the Borg rules cannot allow their children to meet these developmental needs. I believe forcing an adolescent to live by Borg rules is abusive and damaging to their development.

    #3 Adolescents, like adults, need to feel they have some reasonable amount of POWER over their own lives. This is a need. Adolescents who feel they have no control over their lives will find a way to get it. Pregnancy, eating disorders, risk-taking behaviors, and drug abuse in teens often have roots in the teen’s belief that they have no power over their own lives. (“ I chose to have a baby. I did this myself. I made this choice.”) JW teens must act out, lead double lives, or run away in order to have any power over their own lives. They NEED to do this, psychologically speaking.

    Just as a baby must crawl at a certain time, an adolescent must explore the world, make some of his own choices and decide what he believes. The JW faith does not allow this. We are left with the question: Why does the Borg do this to it’s children? Why does it continue to chase off 88% of the young people? For the answer we must look at the 12% who STAY in the Borg.

    The 12% remaining are MOSTLY youths who allow their parents and the Borg to choose their identity for them (“You are a JW!" "Um, ok."). These kids never develop an identity of their own and they have difficulties with relationships and intimacy. (How can you share yourself with another person if you have no idea who you are??) They become ‘Identity foreclosed’.

    Allow me to quote a Child Development text, Infants, Children, and Adolescents, by Laura E. Berk (PLEASE READ CAREFULLY AND SEE IF THIS REMINMDS YOU OF ANYONE):

    “Identity foreclosed individuals have committed themselves to values and goals without taking time to explore alternatives. Instead, they accept a ready-made identity that authority figures (usually parents but sometimes teachers, religious leaders, or romantic partners) have chosen for them.”

    “Foreclosed individuals tend to be dogmatic, inflexible, and intolerant. Some use their commitments in a defensive way, regarding any difference of opinion as a threat. Most are afraid of rejection by people on whom they depend for affection and self-esteem (Frank, Pirsch, & Wtight, 1990: Kroger, 1995).”

    In short, poorly adjusted individuals who are ‘identity foreclosed’ make excellent cult members(!!!!). That is why the Borg wants the children raised this way, and always will.

    ---LisaBobeesa

  • dannyboy
    dannyboy

    Lisa,

    Very enlightening. Great post. Thank you.

    I was raised in the borg, and "stayed in" through my teenage years and on for many years. Tried so hard to be a "good boy/good man" ie a "company man". Boy Oh boy....... Your post sort of hits me right between the eyes. I hardly ever like to think about my youth 'cause it hurts so much. Your post provides interesting insights. I'm going to try and find the book you cite.

    DB

  • joelbear
    joelbear

    Wow Lisa, Thank you.

    I definitely see myself in there.

    I still struggle with identity issues. I still don't know what I want to be when I grow up. I have a hard time focusing on goals for more than a short time.

    I wish I could find a good counselor or mentor to help me once and for all resolve these confusing issues.

    Any ideas?

    hugs

    Joel

  • betweenworlds
    betweenworlds

    That is so scary! Makes me even more motivated to get a living will drawn up, so that in the event something happens to my husband and I, it will be made absolutely clear that I don't want my children to be raised as Jehovah's Witnesses. My parents and my inlaws are both JWs!
    Thanks for the post Lisa

    BW

    "The important thing is to not stop questioning" Albert Einstein

  • hillary_step
    hillary_step

    Lisa,

    Thank you for your interesting post and analysis.

    You note :

    I believe forcing an adolescent to live by Borg rules is abusive and damaging to their development

    I concur with this viewpoint. I have found that many adults raised in the WTS especially those who did not secretly experiment with life, often have large facets of their personality unformed. I have dealt with 50 year olds within the WTS who have married, held down jobs, and produced offspring and yet in some ways are still children. These are the ones that have raised the children, what one CO. once described to me a a 'shiftless generation', and are subsequently responsible for the empty personalities in many younger JW's.

    Just a point of fact, as Max mentioned around 85% leave the WTS, over the next decade approx 20% return. This is interesting in itself as many of these return with failed and blighted lives as a result finding themselves outside the WTS without the life skills and personality resources neccessary to cope. Of course their parents look on with smug grins when they return thinking of the 'Prodigal Son', not appreciating that it was their own neglect in training their children to be people first and WTS servants in the secondary role that was the cause of the trail they left behind them.

    Those that return to the WTS often have a self-righteousness honed to the point of comedy. How often have you heard the phrase - 'listen, I have been out in the World and believe me there is nothing out there'. What they really should say is 'the life skills and developed personality that a normal adolescence brings to an individual were missing in me, so I failed miserably in trying to lead a balanced life'. Excess seems to be the territory of many who leave the WTS and they are still programmed enough to think that everybody lives that way, i.e two choices open as per WTS teaching, you are either a Saint or a Sinner.

    Again, thank you for you educational post -- HS

  • blondie
    blondie

    Betweenworlds, it's a good idea for all parents to select guardians for their children should the parents die before the children are adults. It is best to draw up a carefully crafted legal document especially if the guardian choices are not blood relatives. Be sure to talk to the people you select as guardians so they understand what might be entailed, i.e., a court fight. I would suggest a lawyer who is experienced in this type of law rather than a general lawyer. It may not be possible to eliminate all contact with the JW relatives, but it can be greatly minimized.

    BTW a "living will" usually means a document spelling out what an individual wants done medically should they be unconscious, whether life support means should be used, etc.

    A regular will usually has a part about how minor children will be taken care of.

  • peaceloveharmony
    peaceloveharmony

    lisa, thank you for a great post! i tried to explain to my jw sister about normal/natural adolescence. she came back with, "well, now you're an adult" i didn't say this but thought, damn right i'm an adult and i'll NEVER allow someone, some organization to control me. she just doesn't get it. oh well, i will love her no matter what she believes and if she ever has children, i would hope she would not make the same mistakes jw parents make. anyway, lisa, thanks again, this is a keeper, who knows, maybe i'll get the guts to actually send it to my sis.....

    love
    harmony

    Most people think, Great God will come from the skies, Take away everything And make everybody feel high. But if you know what life is worth, You will look for yours on earth: And now you see the light, You stand up for your rights.~~Bob Marley

  • peaceloveharmony
    peaceloveharmony

    hey, i just found this article online, about being raised in a "hippie" home. i found it interesting to read about one's experience growing up with NO rules, exact opposite of my life! lol
    . http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2001/08/22/hippie_parents/index.html

    -h

  • betweenworlds
    betweenworlds

    Hey blondie!

    Thanks for the info Thanks also for clearing up the differences in the kinds of wills....as you can see I am legally impaired lol.

    Thanks

    BW

    "The important thing is to not stop questioning" Albert Einstein

  • ZazuWitts
    ZazuWitts

    Lisa,

    What an outstanding post. I'm definitely saving this one to pass along to many people. Even non-JW's need to be aware of the points you related.

    Kids raised in any cult, or high-control
    rigid environment, whether it be a religion, or even within the home, are, too often, simply unprepared to interface 'normally' with others, outside of their 'main' group. Without the opportunity to 'experience and learn' on their own during their childhood/teen years, they will often display almost childlike responses and behavior, when they are eventually confronted with troubling or confusing issues.

    And, as Hillary~Step commented, they may return to their 'main' group, where they at least know the rules. Or they may, 'give-up' and turn to other and equally addictive 'controlling sources' - too frequent use of drugs, alcohol, or promiscuous sexual behavior.

    Even if one never goes to these extremes, there is often the feeling of being a 'misfit' in certain typical social situations/encounters. I think it stems from lack of exposure and experience with what is actually normal life situations.

    I can't help but think of such people as "fractured souls." I know, I have in times long past, felt that way about myself.

    ****

    Betweenworlds,

    Larc and I used to 'worry' about our children being raised by JW relatives should something happen to us...we never legally set-up a guardianship...should have. Our children are all adults now, past the 'worry.' But I would encourage you, and ANY others with young children to weigh the issue, and get it legally resolved. Lisa's post really hammers it home, doesn't it?

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