“The Divine Termination of the Marital Arrangement” - I need an old timer

by Bonnie_Clyde 16 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  Terry

  UTOPIA!

  Jehovah's Witnesses are no different than any person or group who has tried to work out the kinks in a Utopian Society.

  Nature is not just, fair or kind; it is the strong and the fierce who survive best. Man has turned the "art" of kindness and social conscience into a RIGHT.

  As such it becomes an entitlement. But, that's a different subject.

  BRAVE NEW WORLD is always at the cost of what is essentially "human" in us.

  Look at the Puritan settlements in the New World in the 1600's. Life was miserable for everybody trying (and forcing others to try) for "perfection".

  Women had it the worst of all.

  Perfectionism only works if you strive to be the perfect animal with the sharpest claws and the best-developed sense of selfishness.

  This is not pretty; but, it is coherent with our nature.

  PARADISE is a silly and poorly constructed daydream peddled to those whose rational minds have been disabled by religious claptrap.

  Sigh.

  Terry
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  james_woods

  Yes, this is the way I remember things from 1962-1980 or so.

  There was also great speculation on how much technology would be present - electricity, buildings, etc.;but especially CARS!

  Being a teenage kid and of course a car freak, this was issue #1 with me. I recall that a watchtower came out with a picture of the new earth where some guy was plowing his field with a TRACTOR! Well whoopee-whoopee: it was easy to logically derive that tractor had to come from a factory; it had to have gas, so probably CARS would be around as well. But all hopes were dashed when the circuit overseer pointed out that it was just a picture and "we do not know what jehovah will provide until the time comes".

  But I'll bet that he secretly believed that for sure there would be printing presses.
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  AK - Jeff

  I remember an elder in the late 60's, when I was a teen in the troof, making a point of telling several of the youthful persons in the congregation that in the new world he would be a 'prince' and that possibly his marriage would be dissolved by God at some point.

  He seemed to be joyful with both prospects at the time. Of course he thought 1975 would be the end. He has now had to endure another 30 years in his marriage. And I don't think the 'prince' thing is working out like he thought either. Poor bastard.

  Jeff
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  james_woods

  I found this old thread because I was reminded of it by the recent one on "RULES IN THE NEW ORDER".

  What I remember about the teaching was that if you survived together through the big A as a married couple, you would still be married. However, if you died and were resurrected, you would be neuter creatures and there would be no marriage. Thus, everybody married should hope that they lived long enough to see the end.

  That was the verbal sense we got back in the 60s and 70s, but I cannot say if it was really stated that way in the literature.

  Anybody have anything further?
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  minimus

  thanks for resurecting this thread.
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  Nathan Natas

  From 1932, Bible Expert Judge Rutherford discourses on "HOME AND HAPPINESS" in paper or as e-book:

  http://www.lulu.com/shop/joseph-franklin-rutherford/home-and-happiness/paperback/product-6099505.html

  
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  hamsterbait

  "The Truth Shall Make you Free" (ca 1941) said that no mre children would be born when the earth is filled.

  This would be because the "stalwart men" and "feminine women" will excercise "perfect self control."

  Eternal sexual frustration (remember the deaf video - if they do the M thing instead how will there NOT be deaf people in the paradise?) Yet God is 2Satisfying the desire of every living thing"

  Its all s h 1 tee.

  HB