All messed up, please help !!!!!!!!!!

by Genesis 22 Replies latest jw friends

  • YoursChelbie
    YoursChelbie


    Hi Genesis,

    Realizing that leaving the Watchtower is not the same as leaving God was a breakthrough for me.

    After that, I no longer cared about the hours in service or attending each boring meeting or the demands to "put on a show" for the Circuit Overseer's visit... The only thing that mattered was that I felt better because of not being part of a false organization that is too proud to accept and rectify its own errors.

    YC

  • prophecor
    prophecor

    Welcome Genesis & Ellie J. Glad you could jump on the merry-go-round

  • jeanniebeanz
    jeanniebeanz
    Sorry for my Panic Crisis.

    No worries... I think we've all had them. ;)

    Thank you; again for your help. I promise I wont post against when on emotionnal disturb ;).

    Oh, by all means post at any time! If we dont know you need help, then how can we offer it? Please don't keep from posting just because you're upset.

    Jeannie spoke to me about Triggering Words in my mind and I think she was very right (Thx Jean) so Ill stay from this sick vocabulary and delete it progressively in my head.

    I'm so glad that you found the words helpful, Genesis. Love the name, by the way... very apropos... Take care... Jeannie

  • Sheepish
    Sheepish

    It was a real comfort to me when I realized the believers ARE the body of Christ (not just 144,000) It says, "Whosoever believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God. There is lots more information here whether you still have faith in the scriptures or not.. What could this woman possibly be afraid of for you? That you hold the teachings up to the light?

    It's important to have supportive people to talk to when you are being emotionally manipulated.Don't fall for it, continue your search. Seek and you will find! Folks around here understand. Welcome!

  • serendipity
    serendipity

    Hi elliej, welcome to the forum!

    Genesis, you've received some good advice. Just be patient with yourself. You don't have to make a clean break this week.

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    I like elliej already.

  • Genesis
    Genesis

    Thank you all, Tonight was a very useful night :

    1. I had you answering me and encouraging me

    2. I read pages 150 more of Crisis of Conscience and that book is superb !

    I feel calm now and I dont plan to have anymore Panic Crisis (see the positive vocabulary, as if I "planned" to be disturbed).

    Oh I havent wished you things for 2006 by the way :

    Happy New Year, may 2006 brings you : Peace of Mind, Health, Pizza and no more WussTower...

  • misspeaches
    misspeaches

    Excellent news Genesis. Glad you are feeling better now. Its always great to hear the positive news too.

    Keep up the great work. You'll get there. Trust me.

  • Van Gogh
    Van Gogh

    Welcome Genesis & Ellie J - I'V READ SOME GREAT COMMENTS HERE
    Being confronted with JW environment "triggers" some of the stuff that was hard-wired into our thinking.
    It is like a former drug addict. Confrontation with their former environment IN ANY FORM could provoke a relapse. Deepak Chopra calls it the "monkey on your back" syndrome. If you have access to his "Perfect Health" go to chapter 8. His solution is to avoid this syndrome altogether by concentrating on things that will constitute a greater source of satisfaction. In the case of exjdubs this would mean substituting their former beliefs with another kind of spirituality that would provide more satisfaction. This involves work, however, as you might want to invest not only in reading stuff that clearly refutes WTS teaching, but also take the time to discover and develop a truly satisfying spirituality all of your own. THEN you will recognize the true shallowness of the WTS sales system.

    I do have a great deal of sympathy though for JWdubs like the one who PM-ed you. I know some of them intimately myself, and I find it agonizing not being able to connect to them. After 50 years or so "in" you can't help but explain the facts in such a way as to be able to still look into the mirror in life's autumn.
    Also, their kind of reasoning is completely false. What basis does this person have to believe the "brethren" are God's people that can be equated with the kingdom of Israel - in spite of obvious lies. Doesn't the WTS teach us to quite false religion? Why do they flame others for sticking up with their own religion despite shortcomings?
    Theo

  • wanderlustguy
    wanderlustguy

    Be aware that your mind is programmed, don't forget it. That will help you when people try to trigger your training, i.e. staying at your dad's house.

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