Real 'BIG' news WTS sued biggie worker compensation (page 2)

Frannie Banannie

"Our problem all along has been medical-legal. We are still active Jehovah's Witnesses."

But not for long when they experience the reaction of their peers.

Good JOB!!!

Frannie

I'm wondering that too, carla. Given that JWs weren't encouraged to go to the police or the law even when their children were sexually abused, I'm a bit confused as to how any dub could sue the WTS and still beconsidered "in good standing"?

Not that I'm not pleased the the WTS is going to have to fork out some money and perhaps reveiw their policy of drop kicking Bethelites out of New York when they have an illness or injury that doesn't allow them to slave for the org any more, but I am curious as to how these folks are really viewed by other dubs as well as the org itself. I suppose it would look bad in court if they df'd them, huh? LOL

carla

Also, why a $79,000.00 stipend? Have they ever given any injured Bethel worker any such stipend? didn't a guy lose his hand long ago at Bethel and all he got was sent home?

LittleToe

"It'll pretty much put religious orders out of business," Miller said. "It would certainly impact whether we would ever want to continue operations" in New York.

So they're a "religious order", now? How will they be discerned from Christendom, or even the wider "Babylon the Great", if they keep on assuming "worldly" titles?

Oh, that's right - they've been riding the back of the beast (United Nations) already, haven't they - they ARE part of BtG!

DannyHaszard

{I am placing this here to show how every post we make chips away at the Watchtower racket.} Dealing with the small stuff
InfoWorld - 5 minutes ago
... to handle a relatively benign and minor consequence of diversity in the workplace has started to turn into a referendum on whether the Jehovah's Witnesses are a cult... January 06, 2006

Dealing with the small stuff

I'm doing something I've never done before: I'm pulling the plug on a discussion thread. Through a combination of "slippery slope" and hitting the wrong button, a discussion about how to handle a relatively benign and minor consequence of diversity in the workplace has started to turn into a referendum on whether the Jehovah's Witnesses are a cult.

Not only don't I plan to take a position on this issue, I'd advise you to do the same, at least during work hours. It isn't that cults are good things. It's that there's no hard, sharp line that divides religions or cultural groups from cults. To give you an example, one of the harsher posts used the Jehovah's Witness practice of "shunning" those who leave the faith as evidence of its cultishness. Which brings up this question: Whether your grandfather's refusal to speak with your uncle for the past 40 years, after your uncle left the Lutheran church to become a Catholic, is an example of shunning, and if so whether that makes Lutheranism a cult.

Not to mention the Amish, for whom shunning is a recognized form of punishment.

And on, and on, and on. In your role as an IT leader, that doesn't matter. Whether someone is a member of the disreputable cult of Lutheranism, described in horrifying detail by Garrison Keilor every week on A Prairie Home Companion (it's a code: The acronym, PHC, also stands for "putrid and horrible cult"), really doesn't matter to you, or it shouldn't.

Here's the lesson I've drawn from the amazing response to this posting. I've read, and given, lots of advice to IT managers and executives over the past ten years. Almost none of it covers something very real that working managers face every day in companies all over America: Seemingly trivial issues arising from seemingly trivial differences among employees that can grow until they have a remarkable impact on organizational performance.

I don't know exactly where you should go to find authoritative advice on how to handle employee birthday celebrations. I do know they can start as spontaneous outpourings of affection - a way of saying "we're glad you were born" - to obligatory traditions, and from there to unintended sleights if someone is left our, or to accidentally offensive displays of disrespect for another's religion, as in the case we've been discussing.

And this is just one of dozens of equally trivial issues that can blow up in your face. Most managers would rather avoid dealing with them; many deal with them through the probably worse solution of adding yet another policy to the overburdened Policy Manual.

One way or another, these are issues you have to deal with, generally with some delicacy. If you're thinking you don't (and please - feel free to post your opinion on this), here's my response in advance: You do, because it can affect team performance, and you are responsible for that.

- Bob Posted by Bob Lewis on January 6, 2006 04:39 AM Comments Post a comment

ICBehindtheCurtain

DannyH YOU DA MAN!!!!!!!!! THIS IS GREAT NEWS!!!!!! This would seem to be the real reason they are laying off all those workers, they don't want to be sued by anyone slipping or hurting themselves on their premises. It could also open a big can of worms, I personally know of quite a few bethelites back in the 80's that were exposed to asbestos and other chemicals while working in bethel that got seriously and sometimes fatally ill, they were just let go, but this could potentially be the straw that broke the ~~camels~~ WTS's back!

If the Court's decision stands, they can be sued up the WAZOO, by all those poor brainwashed bethelites that gave years of their lives and health to the Borg! YESSSSSSSSS, I can only hope!

IC (of the Sue the WTS till it's bankrupt class)

david_10

Hooray!! That's great news, and the odds are good that this will hold up on appeal. The odds are real good. Maybe Eduardo could weigh in on this. Where are you, Eduardo?

However, as to "millions" being paid out, I don't see that happening. Not even close. To collect even One million, the Uptons would have to get $400 a week for nearly 50 years. It's very unlikely that either of them will live that long. From the WTBS standpoint, it's really pretty paltry----------------------they should just go ahead and pay it and be done with it.

David

Satanus

I wonder if any of the dismissed bethelites will become disgruntled and try for severence, or breach of contract, or something along that line.

S

Elsewhere

Is this for real???

Please tell me this isn't a gag post!

West70

Danny:

You are correct. This news article is "genuine" BIG NEWS, and hopefully this thread may be accessed via Google for many months/years to come.

Therefore, while you have time, why not revise the name of this thread in accordance with its level of importance, such as:

"NYJudge Rules Some Bethelites Entitled To Workers Comp Coverage"

Another suggestion: Don't clutter your own threads; especially ones with genuine BIG NEWS.

Another suggestion: Don't HIJACK your own BIG NEWS threads with irrelevent, off-topic stuff that coud be posted elsewhere.

Thanks for your well meaning efforts.

Real 'BIG' news WTS sued biggie worker compensation