Participating in the New Covenant

by sinis 7 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • sinis
    sinis

    Just wanted to get some thoughts on this. I decided in my heart that I should partake if I want to have my sins forgiven. I believe that the JW's are condemning there own people by forbiding them do partake as they cannot benefit from Christs provision if they don't. Anyway, for those of you who do, do you look at it as a set rigid outline of events (much like the JW's do with passing, prayer, etc.) or do you take the opportunity to reflect on the scriptures surrounding the event, personal life, prayer, basically keeping the event solemn.

  • mdb
    mdb

    What do you mean by "participating in the New Covenant"? Sorry, it's just not clear to me as to what you're asking. Do you mean the partaking of the cup and bread (communion)?

  • greendawn
    greendawn

    If you mean to say that because they don't participate in the bread and wine ritual they are going around the means of salvation then you are correct. Outside the new covenent there is no salvation or representation before the Divine throne.

  • sinis
    sinis
    What do you mean by "participating in the New Covenant"? Sorry, it's just not clear to me as to what you're asking. Do you mean the partaking of the cup and bread (communion)?

    Yes, that is what I meant.

  • Narkissos
    Narkissos
    I decided in my heart that I should partake if I want to have my sins forgiven. I believe that the JW's are condemning there own people by forbiding them do partake as they cannot benefit from Christs provision if they don't.

    I don't think many Christians would go for such extreme view of "sacrament".

    Anyway, for those of you who do, do you look at it as a set rigid outline of events (much like the JW's do with passing, prayer, etc.) or do you take the opportunity to reflect on the scriptures surrounding the event, personal life, prayer, basically keeping the event solemn.

    Why don't you check the church communion services in your neighbourhood?

  • sinis
    sinis
    I decided in my heart that I should partake if I want to have my sins forgiven. I believe that the JW's are condemning there own people by forbiding them do partake as they cannot benefit from Christs provision if they don't.

    I don't think many Christians would go for such extreme view of "sacrament".
    Anyway, for those of you who do, do you look at it as a set rigid outline of events (much like the JW's do with passing, prayer, etc.) or do you take the opportunity to reflect on the scriptures surrounding the event, personal life, prayer, basically keeping the event solemn.
    Why don't you check the church communion services in your neighbourhood?

    Didn't mean it quite that way. Basically, meant that if a person does not participate than they have no means of salvation. I might check out the local area, though "religion" as a whole as turned me off. Don't really feel like jumping from the pan into the fire. I would rather just keep it to a personal level and not get mixed into another "cult".

  • Narkissos
    Narkissos
    Basically, meant that if a person does not participate than they have no means of salvation.

    That's how I understood your first post. Most Christians, I think, would actually link salvation to faith rather than partaking in the communion, so they wouldn't draw that conclusion. Btw some Christian movements, for different reasons, have no communion service at all (e.g. the Salvation Army).

    I might check out the local area, though "religion" as a whole as turned me off. Don't really feel like jumping from the pan into the fire. I would rather just keep it to a personal level and not get mixed into another "cult".

    I can understand that, although I think the whole thing is "religious" (this word is not negative to me) and "communitarian" by definition. "Private communion" sounds like a contradiction to me.

  • mdb
    mdb

    sinis,

    Salvation is a free gift and by faith in Jesus Christ. Partaking in communion will not save you. All our best efforts are like filthy rags. Communion is something we partake of to remember what Christ did for us - that His body was broken and His blood poured out in order to bring many sons to glory. Rom 3:20; Gal 2:16; Eph 2:8,9; Titus 3:5

    If the WTS teaches that the partaking of the "New Covenant" as a requirement, I suppose it shouldn't surprise anyone being that their idea of salvation is based on works: they believe the atonement Jesus gave on the cross (oh, I mean stake... for you who think that) only covered the sins inherited from Adam. By accepting Christ’s “free gift”, the Watchtower says, now a person has a chance of salvation, but is not saved by faith in Jesus Christ alone. That's far from the teachings of the Scriptures.

    We are to believe in the Lord Jesus for salvation: Jn 3:15; 5:24; 11:25; 12:46; 20:31

    And, everyone can be born again, not just some "anointed 144000 class": 1 Jn 5:1. This is consistent with Jn 3:1-21; 3:16 (whoever believes); 1:12,13.

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