Cruel Pre-1975 Teaching Point - Persecution

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  • Amazing
    Amazing

    Persecution: Sometime around late 1973 early 1974, when JWs everywhere were in eager anticipation of Armageddon breaking out, we also feared something else. Prior to Armageddon, there would be the Great Tribulation, and just about this time we expected heavy persecution, so much so, that is was hard to help Bible Studies (newbies) to get over this fear.

    Service Meeting Part: During a Service Meeting, the Elder giving the part was speaking about such persecution and of course all this was prefaced with our obedience to Jehovah and his organization, doing all the works, meetings, etc. ...

    ... As he spoke, there was suddenly loud banging on all of our entry-exit doors. We could hear men yelling that they were going to break the doors down, and that we were under arrest. The banging got louder, and louder ... The Elder asked the attendants to hold the doors closed and locked ...

    ... children started screaming, one sister passed out, and a couple of others ran to the bathroom to vomit. My oldest daughter, about a one year old baby at the time, started crying, and my wife looked at me with confusion, wondering what we do. I looked around to see what the rest of the brothers were doing, and then looked back at the Elder on the platform ... I too felt concern as the banging on the doors continued and got even louder along with the demands that we come outside the Kingdom Hall, or they would come in to get us ...

    What happened?: The Elder on the platform starting smiling, and talked loud into the microphone over the screaming and crying going on among mostly children, and the consoling hushes of parents ... and told the attendants to open the doors and let the brothers in. It was all a joke staged as a "Teaching Point to help us see the need to be prepared for Persecution, with Armageddon so near.

    I was royaly pissed: I was an MS at the time, but after the meeting, I took the Elder and a couple of brothers into the 'back room' and told him what I thought of his stupid and cruel stunt. One of the brothers, and Elder, laughed and told me I was taking things too seriously. But, while I have a good sense of humor, this seemed outrageous. Another Elder told me that this is what we will see during persecution, and that the Meeting Part did what it was designed to do. I pointed out that during persecution, we would have God's spirit protecting us, but during a joke meeting part, God was not behind that. I was counseled to accept it and forget it. I did not do either, but I did not make any more of an issue.

    Fear of Persecution: One of the biggest issues that JWs used to harp on in the 1960s and through the 1970s was persecution at every level from family rejection when one becomes a JW, to being raped and tortured just before the Great Tribulation andf then Armageddon. Situations such a Malawi were used to support this notion of persecution, because the JWs there were cruely beaten, raped, toprtured and murdered. Why? Because of a silly policy that the majority of the Governing Body did not support, but failed to achieve the necessary 2/3 vote to repeal the Party Card prohibition.

    Mind-Control: Fear is our most base animal instinct and most powerful emotion far and above love or any other noble quality. Fear is a time tested tool of despots, wicked leaders over nations, and cult leaders over blinded followers. The Watch Tower Society via its policies and publications all the way down to local Elders made heavy use of fear in the Pre-1975 years ... and, I suspect that is one reason for the increase in witnessing activity, growth, and maintenance of membership.

    And today?: I have not followed the WTS teachings for nearly 9 years ... so I am not sure how much they use fear of persecution, but they still use plenty of "fear", such as fear of the world and those they label as apostates, etc. Fear is their number one game.

    The Apostle John once said, "There is no fear in love: but perfect love caste out fear, because fear has punishment; and he that fears is not made perfect in love. - 1 John 4:18

    Simply Amazing

  • Fredhall
    Fredhall

    And?

  • Moxy
    Moxy

    if it werent coming from you amazing, id have difficulty believing this... bizarre.

    mox

  • truman
    truman

    Amazing,

    I have not been around much lately, but when I saw your subject, I had to respond. I was baptized in 1974, myself, and vividly remember being terrorized by the lurid accounts of the Malawi persecution described in WT articles. I also remember being given a healthy (or would that better be called unhealthy) dose of the possibility and even probability of severe physical persecution as a part of my pre-baptism studies (all backed up by Scriptural references). I am a very sensitive person, and the effect of all this was very unpleasant and mentally disturbing. I had recurring fears for many years about the inevitability of suffering such things as being jailed, raped, beaten, or all of the above as an inescapable by-product of being a witness. When my children were born, I went through many mental scenarios of being forced to endure watching them tortured to get to me or the like. Eventually, I had been able to put these thoughts a little further from the front of my mind as a witness, but they are always there for such a one. However, when I made my own discoveries of the mind control manipulations behind this whole thing, I made a list for myself of benefits to me of this new knowledge. Prominently featured on that list was at last being free of this fear of violent persecution. This is such a terrible burden to put on people, and those who use such a tool are shameful. Thanks for bringing this subject up!

  • joelbear
    joelbear

    I remember counting up to see how old I would be when the persecution started and trying to prepare myself mentally for various types of torture.

  • VM44
    VM44

    Great Post Amazing, you described the fear that was among the
    JWs during the 1960s and 1970s.

    I remember the constant reminding by the witnesses that soon the
    persecution would break out, that the JWs would be taken from their
    homes, or taken from field service directly to concentration camps,
    forced to work in the agricultural fields, we would have to exist on
    very little food (these were additional embellishments I heard from
    an elder, a real Watchtower "Organization" man!)

    The elder, named Vincent Mancuso, (I am giving his name because he
    said these things from the platform, in public!) kept asking
    "Are You Going to Make It?" over and over again to the congregation.
    He made the comment about having little food during the Great
    Tribulation, so you better learn to eat smaller portions at dinner
    Right now! (Maybe he thought some children ate too much food!, he was
    a very opinionated man....little knowledge, but full of opinions!)

    This was typical....keep the people in fear, of persecution, of
    not making it into the new world....it was horrible!

    --VM44

    P.S. I think the JWs liked scaring childern, remember that famous
    picture from the "Paradise" book? The one showing little kids
    falling into an open chasm? along with their pets and toys?

  • Cowboy
    Cowboy

    I was only around 9 at that time,and those talks about the persecution,torture and death that we would face soon are as vivid to me as if they were yesterday.I was absolutely terrified,still have those nightmares every once in a while.....

    'nuf said
    Cowboy

  • r51785
    r51785

    VM44, you mention Vincent Mancuso. There's a man I will never forget!!
    He was an elder in my KH. I remember as a 20 year old when I was being recommended to be a MS Vinnie was assigned by the elders to ask me if there were any "reasons" why I should not be recommended. It was my first experience with an elder trying to get me to engage in self-incrimination. He probably wanted to know if I masturbated (this was at the time of the great masturbation scare)!

  • Amazing
    Amazing

    Hello r51785: Excellent point! And exactly on target. You noted, "... Vinnie was assigned by the elders to ask me if there were any "reasons" why I should not be recommended. It was my first experience with an elder trying to get me to engage in self-incrimination. He probably wanted to know if I masturbated (this was at the time of the great masturbation scare)!"

    That is among the top reasons for that question about whether 'anything' held you back. The Elders already know about a man's field service, meeting attendance, comments, etc. For some Elders it mat be other issues too, such as problems at home, etc. But, they knew good and well that 'masturbation' was the one 'secret sin' that they would likely hear about if it bothered the conscience of the brother being considered for Eldership. Thanks for an excellent point. - Amazing

  • drahcir yarrum
    drahcir yarrum

    I seem to remember the Rev. Jim Jones used to have similar drills in his church. We know that at the appropriate time, his followers knew exactly what to do. Practice makes perfect.

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