by Antichrist 27 Replies latest watchtower scandals
Also no luggage no debris found at the penagone site. Now tell me. How does all that vaporize?
If you have an engineering degree, surely you could logically look at some of the numerous pictures of various airliner crashes and see that very little is left intact. (often just the tail).
I 100% agree ....Bush was either involved or knew something...You don't stay listening ...to what 8 year olds when your are the President and your country is under attack!
I have seen the time line about this!
Bush is an a$$hole in the first degree!
ok, here you are, just a random picture I found. This is the most amazing concept for some to grasp, but planes just seem to disintergrate when they crash!!!!
Also no luggage no debris found at the penagone site. Now tell me. How does all that vaporize?
That's patently false. Just look at the pictures of landing gear and engine parts which are clearly visible in the pentagon wreckage. I have family who were in the building at the time the attack occurred. Spreading this conspiracy BS only serves to smear the memory of those who were killed by the lunatic terrorists, both in the pentagon and on the plane which slammed into the building.
Your refusal to look at the pictures, both of the wreckage and of the grounds, which clearly show a skid mark on the grass where the plane ‘”skipped” off the ground before it hit the building, betrays your willful ignorance.
Spreading this conspiracy BS only serves to smear the memory of those who were killed by the lunatic terrorists, both in the pentagon and on the plane which slammed into the building.
On the contrary, this information serves as a tribute to the memory of all those killed on 9/11. The TRUTH about what who killed them is the least they and their loved ones deserve.
Legolas, I agree, but Bush didn't do it alone. He was just another fall guy, just another evil player in the wicked game of control, power and greed that orchestrated these attacks and profit from them.
jstalin, I hope your family members are okay....
willow
I have read all of the testimonials...And I would like to know one thing.
Where are the photos? where? there are lots of traffic cams in that area. People have camera phones and most people have camcorders and in a city that large how come there is not one clear photo? No tail section nothing I dont see bodies there are many things missing in the blurry photos I have found. I have seen people whip out a camera for almost everything....So how come when I go to the web on google a find so few images. and the ones I do find seem very blurry and not at all condusive with a 60 ton plane...
based on what they have said regarding the crash how is it that there is no tail section?
The shuttle that burnt up in the atmospher had body parts and things floating down from space that were strewn over Texas by comparison.
now here is video for the pentagone security camera. Please notice the date on the bottom..
Then there is the way a buildings collapse. How is it that all the wtc building fell on their own foot print? Buildings dont fall this way unless there are planted demolision explosives are used. Now with the way that these building were constructed how is it that they fell to begin with? that is not possible from an engineering point of view. I have seen a lot of building fires and it take some time for a building to come down durring a normal fire. and that is on very small buildings.
ON the web, I am seeing lots of blurry photos and people saying that the 911 attack on the pentagone was for real. But Im not convinced because there is reasonable doubt it has been proven and yet we ignore it. In my purse I carry a 5 mega pixel camera, a razor phone(has a camera in it) to name a few devices I have at all times. Now if I do that then what are the chances that others would? If it were 1972 I could understand. But there is a lack of information...
Guys Im not here to pick a fight... I just see enough information to form the conclusion that there is reasonable doubt.
Let me give you an example. If I were dishonest. I could access a progam called poser 6 which I use for animation. And take a front and side profile of someone and apply them to an object of a character. I then can have that object behave in any manner I choose. I could make credible video footage...I can do marvels in 3d studio and maya. To me I see a few blurry photos I see things that looks strange but I dont see things that clearly demonstate to me that this is all legit. People do graphics know. Yes I hold a degree in electronics engineering. But I do video game animation and I used to do broadcast video production. Back in 94 I could do things with a video toaster that seemed so real that you would think it was actual camera footage. Light wave and a toaster equiped Amiga 4000 was what was used to creat the underwater scenes in sea quest, the space scenes in space above and beyound and many others. It has been over 10 years since I could do that stuff with my Amiga computers. WHat I have now is far more advanced. I run amd dual core shuttles with all the goodies. Imagine what I could do. I have one particle effects engine that I can use to creat really great looking explosions. I have a model of the pentagone too. Oddly enough...I have seen the supposed evidence. I can generate far more catching footage than the goverments people apparently. The last game project I worked on involved creating characters that walked through things and shot guns. Easy, I had to creat 3d smoke. Easy. I created a flag blowing in the wind Easy...
I am sure lots of us would love to sit back and accept that this was a terrorist attack. Initialy I did too. Then I looked at the footage over and over and over. And saw many discrepencies.
As someone who understand physics and video editing it makes sence to me that something is funky here.
Now what would motivate our administation to do this.
lets look at this:
THe vice president got in trouble for oil dealings- what does he do? he goes accross the street to the supreme ct and talks to his buddy.
Vice President Dick Cheney and Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia spent part of last week duck hunting together at a private camp in south Louisiana, just three weeks after the high court agreed to take up the vice president's appeal involving lawsuits over his handling of the administration's energy task force .
This is a ducumented fact.
Several people and large companies pounced on iraq. This whole thing is about oil. Our soldiers are dieing needlessly for a war- So to all of you who point and laugh about all the conspiracies theories and this and that. Where are Wmds? where? I Have been to the desert I am a verteran too. I know how things are. Night- cold. Daytime hot- 50mph winds blowing sand at you, snakes, scorpians and assorted uglies. Our soldiers are over their being shot at and dealing with the harsh conditions of that area and for what? To line W and his "Base" the "haves and havemores" with greenery. Some of you many be teenagers. What would your tune be if the reinstated the draft? I bet none of you want to go and die. some of you sit and play video games and never worry about walking out side and being shot in the face or haveing a body part amputated. Complacentcy is what we have become as Americans. I dont understand in this age. Why it doesnt make your blood boil when you hear about the needless deaths of Americans I dont understand. The war in iraq was supposedly about freedom and democracy. it was about wmds and this and that. Well I am sure the Saddam is very evil and needs to be punised but if there were no oil in iraq there would be no war there.
Oil is power. With out oil you dont have transportion. You dont have all the things that make our partolium soaked society function. You just dont know how much Oil affects your day to day life. If all the oil in the world disapeared over night. the world would be destroyed as we know it. There would be deaths- mass panic and war everywhere. The civilization that we know would cease to exsist. Oil is our main source of energy. Think about that.. THose who control oil weild power.
With all that said isnt there reasonable doubt that everything that has transpired since the presidents "election" has led to this war?. When I add up the numbers they dont jive.
Instead of turning on the playstation turn on the tv and view whats in the news and what is going on in your world... When I was going to school we had segregation. Imagine that! well some of us fought against that and we changed that. Because it was discrimination santioned by our own governent! What if when we wake up, we no longer have any rights? And then what will we do?
I do hold an engineering degree.
Well, I think that is a scam.
Bush was either involved or knew something
Of course he did. He's part of the alien reptilian bloodline that rules the earth. Darn lizard aliens!!!!
I'm not usually one to believe in conspiracy theories... far from it, but as i was walking along Tottenham Court Road, i looked in a TV shop, saw the Towers fall and said out loud... "Why the hell are they demolishing the World Trade Center?"
I was there for almost half an hour watching the BBC report the news, and when i finally turned around, i was surprised to see that i couldn't move anywhere, because there was a massive crowd which had gathered to watch the news with me. The next thought was to ring my mum to find out if my aunt who lived in New York at the time, was ok. Then a profound sadness came over me as i watched people panicking in the middle of Tottenham Court Road, getting phone calls, crying, worrying that London would be next, phoning relatives to see whether it was a London-NY plane which was used in the attack. Me and the friend i was with decided to move as far away from any well-known monuments as possible, and avoid the Underground.
As i kept on thinking about the image i had seen on the screen i said in my mind "That was a controlled detonation wasn't it... nah it can't have been... oh come on now, it was definately a demolition"... The next word that came to my head scared me so tremendously, my eyes literally widened and i stopped walking. The word was "Reichstag"...
I turned around to my friend and i said, "Do you think the Americans are capable of doing this themself?" He said "What do you mean?". I said, "Well, do you think they could have put the planes in the buildings themselves? Planes can't just go off course like that without someone noticing"... he looked at me with one eyebrow raised and said, "Are you serious man?, naah, don't be silly, they would have no reason to do it, it would be stupid. The US govt does things underhandedly on their own soil, they wouldn't outright blow up a famous building just for they sake of it, besides, think about it, these towers are the *World Trade Center*, it will damage their economy too much to be deliberate"... I said "Yeah, ok i see. Yeah you're probably right, it is a bit far-fetched".
After a little while when we were sitting down in i said, "Do you remember studying the Reichstag Fire in history class when we were at school together?" He said "Yeah, but..." then i half-jokingly said "When the US starts a kind of Kristalnacht against the Middle-East, i'll be there to tell you 'I told you so' "...
When the word "Taliban" came into common parlance and public consciousness, i already knew about them, they had been in the news earlier that year for destroying a 175 foot statue of Buddha in Afghanistan, and they had also outlawed hitting people in the face or head in boxing matches... I thought, destroying a giant Buddha in your own country is one thing, hijacking planes and flying them into US monuments is quite another...
I'm still not sure what to believe to be honest. Watching this video has still not convinced me either way... I can't believe that the US govt conspired to have the buildings destroyed thats just too far-fetched. Not that i have any more confidence in the US govt than i do in that of say, Romania, but i've come to realise that blowing up the WTC just doesnt seem to be their "style". In any case, i am of the opinion that much information has been hidden, and that there is more to the whole episode than the public is privy to... and i also do think that at the moment, the word "Al-Qaida" is thrown about all too willy-nilly to incite fear and hatred, and that especially here in Britain, the Muslim community is suffering an awful lot because of new prejudices and stereotypes that have arisen since the attack on the WTC...
I have read all of the testimonials...And I would like to know one thing.Where are the photos? where? there are lots of traffic cams in that area. People have camera phones and most people have camcorders and in a city that large how come there is not one clear photo? No tail section nothing I dont see bodies there are many things missing in the blurry photos I have found. I have seen people whip out a camera for almost everything....So how come when I go to the web on google a find so few images. and the ones I do find seem very blurry and not at all condusive with a 60 ton plane...
Please click on the 2nd link in my first post for pics of the aftermath showing obvious airliner parts such as landing gear and a wheel and tire, etc...
Um, you don't NEED an engineering degree to see what happens in other plane crashes! You have to be kidding me! Of course planes can and DO do that amount of damage... it happens all of the time. No offense, but it doesn't surprise me that some people go from being in cults to becoming conspiracy theorists.
I would try to get your money back from whomever gave you that "engineering degree."
