EVASION! How to blank out what you don't want to know

by Terry 34 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  Terry

  I don't take any issue with your premise about "evasion" but, alas, you've continued to run completely off of the field with the ball. Do you really know what you're doing, by attempting to dismantle peoples' mental tools?

  Oh dear, you've gone all hysterical on me!

  Give you an inch of an idea and you'll take a mile.

  Let me respond by saying this by way of clarification.

  You are mixing two different concepts together and calling the both MYSTICISM. Y

  I'm separating the actual from the imaginary and adding a caution.

  When you think in hypotheticals there is nothing wrong with using the imagination as a tool. It is when you lose track of the imaginary content of your thoughts and start believing they are real that you get into trouble.

  NOBODY advocating that you stop conjecture, supposition and analogous thought AS A TOOL to solving a problem.

  I'm saying two things:

  1.Know the real from the unreal and don't mix up the labels.

  2.Don't believe somebody else's hypotheticals when they are presented as invisible actuals.

  Mysticism deals with an AUTHORITY claiming they've got important information that YOU cannot get without going through them. When you ask HOW they get their information they resort to mumbo jumbo.

  T.
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  jojochan

  Circular reasoning maybe? At least that's what I had noticed whenever I used to read their publications. On one question, you would get eight paragraphs for a round about answer, and you would hardly ever get a clear answer.

  Confusing.

  jojochan.
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  Terry

  Can an individual think too much? What of thinking endlessly on things that have no answer, or no answer that the individual could ever be privy to? What about thinking to the point of missing life, beauty, and peace?

  Awareness is necessary to experience the content of life, beauty and peace. Hard to do that if you are unfocused, inattentive and turned inward on some contemplation unconnected with life as it is.

  No, you cannot think too much. You can evade too much.

  Thinking is not the same as crunching numbers in math class; that is a particular facet of problem-solving.

  Thinking is not conjuring the nature of the atom out of splintered particles too small to even see.

  Thinking is active dismantling of the universe into bite-sized bits to be chewed, savored, swallowed and digested by the mind so that the nutrifying elements are useful in making you grow healthier and stronger.

  T.
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  Sparkplug

  Mystical thinking is the act of evasion. What is it? The unstated premise that A THING WILL NOT EXIST if only you refuse to identify it.

  What induces evasion?

  Unpreparedness. If you are unprepared to face the facts you are doomed to attempt to avoid acknowledging they even exist.

  Oh Terry, I have done that. Eww.
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  Terry

  Oh Terry, I have done that. Eww.

  I forgive you!

  T.
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  Golf

  Terry, you need to play a game of golf with me. Golf is a game of focus.
  
  
  Golf
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  LittleToe

  Terry:
  You're using a kinda narrow and specific definition of "mysticism" there, buddy
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  BizzyBee

  Are you emptying the mind or are you concentrating on something that eliminates everything else?'

  Probably this one.

  I'm new to meditation - and not very good at it. My mind runs like a racehorse and is way too analytical I'm told. It is important for me to slow down the flow of thoughts occasionally in whatever way I can.

  Somehow I don't think that is what you are getting at. Maybe more like - "selective thinking"?
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  Terry

  Terry, you need to play a game of golf with me. Golf is a game of focus.
  
  
  Golf

  As Porkey Pig once said : "That's all, focus!"

  T
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  Terry

  You're using a kinda narrow and specific definition of "mysticism" there, buddy

  That is what definition is for! You narrow so as to remove the fuzzy areas of imprecision and doubt.

  The Greek word for having your eyes closed, I seem to recall, is something like "mysterium". It applies to Mystical rather appropriately.

  When people talk about the things they cannot see and use confident tones of "knowledge" they are asserting a source of information which is invisible.

  Consequently, anybody buying in to that "knowledge" has to go through the only channel available. The FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE channel of Jehovah's organization is a very good example of this. These anointed few have special inside information about what Jehovah wants us to do and we simply must go through them and them only. The exclusivity and the unprovability of their claims is what makes them MYSTICS.

  Don't you see? Or, should I say: "see".?

  T.