i think people oppose gay marriage because they don't want more gifts to buy.
besides its very difficult to find sets of his and his towels.
Do you oppose Gay marriage?
by LittleToe 145 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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LittleToe
So true. I mean - who do you give the pink one to, and who do you give the blue one to?
These dilemmas can make you go craaaazy
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scotsman
Blue - Top
Pink - Bottom
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truthseeker
Jst2laws
Hello Truthseeker,
Don't gays want us to accept gay marriage?
No, not if you mean change your personal preferences for a mate. If by "Don't gays want us to accept gay marriage?" you mean do they want to live like anyone else without judgement and interference from others, YES. That doesn't require conversion on the part of anyone. It only requires tolerance and minding our own business.
Steve
I don't buy this "tolerance" programming. If something is clearly wrong, why tolerate it? How does that benefit anyone?
You could apply your suggestion to smoking, should we tolerate it? No, it's offensive, and that's why many countries have banned it in public places.
Sure, what gays do in their own room is their business.
But, when Society starts to legislate laws in their favor, then it becomes everyone's business, because everyone makes up a society. Believe it or not, there are people that haven't thrown their morals away like garden trash, just because the world has changed and God hasn't moved on.
"Tolerance" is just another euphemism for forcing societies to change laws that gave proper boundaries to social behavior.
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LittleToe
TS: You've still not addressed my question. Does "society" belong to the world or to the Christian? Scots:LOL. And one would know that, how?
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truthseeker
LittleToe, not quite sure what you are getting at.
Society belongs to no one, it is not an object, but rather a construct of all people's.
Societies have norms, whether you are Christian or Muslim.
Christians do not believe in gay marriage, neither do Muslim's. Society as a whole does not believe at it either.
Why do you think gay rights lawyers always use activist judges to get laws overturned in favor of them? Because they know that ordainary people would never vote for gay marriage.
Tell me, have you always been so ardent a supporter of gay rights?
Do you think they're lifestyle is healthy?
Consider two news articles that appeared today, I'm giving excerpts as I have little time...
HIV hitting blacks harder
http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/conditions/02/07/aids.blacks.reut/index.html
The rate of new infections declined in black women and in many black men -- with the exception of men having sex with other men, Durant's team reported.
A second study presented at the same conference found that 32 percent of black men in Baltimore who had sex with other men, which includes homosexual and bisexual activity, were infected with HIV.
Rare chlamydia strain infecting gay men
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2006-02-07-chlamydia_x.htm
A particularly bad strain of chlamydia not usually seen in this country appears to be slowly spreading among gay and bisexual men, an infection that can increase their chances of getting or spreading the AIDS virus.
Called LGV chlamydia, this sexually transmitted disease has caused a worrisome outbreak in Europe, where some countries have confirmed dozens of cases. Diagnoses confirmed by U.S. health officials still are low, just 27 since they warned a year ago that the strain was headed here.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention already was counting an 8% increase in HIV among gay and bisexual men between 2003 and 2004, before LGV's arrival was recognized.
LGV can infect both sexes, although new cases diagnosed so far are among men having sex with men.
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Gretchen956
LT - You know that by the badges. Tops wear the "top" badge, and bottoms wear the "bottom" badge.
Truthseeker - Your morals are based on some outdated document. Mine are based on loving my neighbor, and doing nothing to harm another human including myself. Yours are legislated, mine are freely given.
Tolerance simply means a grudging acceptance, nothing in there says you have to like it. Acceptance is a whole 'nother ball -o wax. I see no reason to resort to name calling. You simply state that gays are not to be treated equally under the law as human beings based on a document thousands of years old. That document, by the way, says not ONE word (shouting?) about Jesus rejecting homosexuality, just that old rabble-rouser Paul.
(This isn't directed at anyone in particular, just a thought.) You know, one would hope that as people get to know us and find out we have the same lives as everyone else, that we have the same hopes, dreams, deeply held spiritual convictions, that we are responsible tax-paying folk, we are sons, daughters, cousins, people you work with, maybe even a friend you may not have guessed about... that there would be some degree of, I don' t know, respect, tolerance, acceptance based on our commonalities instead of ONE difference. I guess there will always be those who are more superficial.
Sherry
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Gretchen956
Truthseeker, if you are going to bring up health, did you know that one of the least risky types of sex is between lesbians? FAR safer than heterosexuals. Did you know that AIDS is growing fastest in the heterosexual population? Has been for years.
Sherry
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joelbear
truthseeker, yeah, the world is for everyone, even gays.
morals are a religious issue unless the conduct involves the harming of another individual or their property in some way.
i think its immoral to smoke, therefore smokers should not marry.
i think its immoral to take drugs, therefore drug users should not marry.
i think its immoral to gamble, therefore gamblers should not marry.
i think divorce is immoral, so divorced people should not be allowed to marry.
i think cursing is immoral so people who curse should not be allowed to marry.
i think overeating is immoral so overweight people should not be allowed to marry. (side note: you don't see many disfellowshippings for gluttony)
so who decides whats moral.
i got an idea, how about the individual deciding according to their own religious and spiritual conscience and thought. freedom of religion, its a brilliant idea. i wonder if we'll ever get there.
sheesh
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truthseeker
If any of you dispute these figures, don't look at me, I'm not a doctor or a scientist.
